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Football instituted its first half-the-distance penalty in 1889 for intentionally tackling below the knees, butting, tripping, and throttling (choking). Teams guilty of those offenses were penalized 25 yards. However, if the 25-yard penalty would take the ball over the goal line, they limited the penalty to half the distance. — www.footballarchaeology.com
Ever seen a penalty flag thrown and wondered, "Wait, why'd they move the ball THAT far?" Well, friends, get ready to dive into the strange world of "half-the-distance" penalties in American football!
These penalties, often triggered by infractions inside a team's own territory, can result in some truly eye-opening yardage assessments. Today, we'll be tackling some of the longest half-the-distance penalties in NFL history. We'll be dissecting the plays, the penalties, and the impact they had on the game. Were they backbreakers for the offending team? Did they create crazy scoring opportunities for the defense?
So, buckle up, football fans! Let's get ready to analyze some of the most unusual and potentially game-changing penalties the NFL has ever seen!
Let's listen to some of the most extended half-the-distance penalties in Football History by Timothy Brown of Football Archaeology.
-Transcribed Conversation with Timothy Brown on the Longest Half-Distance Penalties
Hello, my football friends; this is Darin Hayes of PigskinDispatch.com. Welcome once again to The Pig Pen, your portal to positive football history. We also have another great episode where we get to talk to Timothy P. Brown of FootballArcheology.com. Talk about one of his most recent tidbits. Some of those unique aspects of football history.
Tim, welcome back to The Pig Pen.
Thank you, Darin. I Look forward to talking about the penalty situation in football.
Yeah, this is a very fascinating tidbit you had back in late May. It was titled football's longest half the distance penalty. Now we're we're sitting there, you know, in our modern times, we think of a half a distance penalty.
You know, somebody gets penalized and gets the penalty, gets walked back towards their own goal line. And usually, maybe they're at the nine-yard line, and it's, you know, a holding call, and they got to walk back to the four and a half or whatever. That's what we're doing.
But you're talking about something entirely different here as far as yardage. It's not a four-and-a-half-yard walk-off. These are some of the massive jaunts for the teams to travel.
So please do tell. You know, I mean, so early football didn't necessarily have distance penalties as we think of them today. Typically, the penalty for the fouls that were called was the loss of the ball.
You know, it was a turnover. But then they, you know, kind of recognized those were too severe. So then they started, you know, especially after the field got marked with yard lines, and they started doing distance penalties.
And so in 1889, there were they created that was the first half the distance penalties, and that was for, you know, intentionally tackling below the knees because you couldn't tackle below the knees, then budding, tripping and throttling, which was choking. And so that penalty was 25 yards or half the distance. And then, you know, later on, they started doing some things where it was.
Like in 1908, they kind of bundled all the unsportsmanship penalties together, and they made it if you committed an unsportsmanlike penalty, then you were disqualified and your team was penalized half the distance. And that that stayed in place till like 1947. And then then they limited the half distance to to 15 yards.
Right. So you couldn't be more than it was, whichever was 15 yards or half the distance, but Max was 15 yards. And so that's, you know, like you said in the open, it was, we think of a half a distance, half the distance penalty is applying when you're inside your own 30.
Right. If you're at the 45, either either 45, it doesn't matter. It's just whatever the normal penalty is.
And, you know, we cap them at 15 yards nowadays, but 25-yard penalties used to be pretty common. So, you know, before we kept them, there was the opportunity in a half-the-distance world for some really long penalties. And now, I mean.
I'm kind of limited by the way I can search in these newspaper databases, so I'm searching for keywords and strings of words. So I can't say that I found the longest. It's what I found that was the longest that I found, but it's still pretty long.
So the longest one that I came across was in a 1901 game Northwestern against Minnesota. Northwestern was in the red zone. They were on Minnesota's eight yard line.
A Northwestern player jumped off the side and slugged a Minnesota player. So they called the penalty. So they were on the eight.
This was in the days of the 110-yard field. So that meant that you know, 110 minus eight was 104 or no, I'm sorry, 102. And so they walked off a 51-yard penalty against Northwestern, which took the ball, as it turned out, it took the ball all the way back to Northwestern's 51-yard line.
Right. And then, in 1906, I found Vanderbilt got nailed for a 32-yard penalty in the same year Penn State got hit with a 30-yard penalty. And then, at that point, I stopped looking.
You know, I mean, I found a couple of instances, and then, in 1912, they reduced the length of the field to 100 yards. So there's no way you were going to have a 50 another 51 yard penalty. So anyway, it's possible that there was a 52, 53, or 54-yard penalty at some point out there.
I didn't find it. But if somebody else wants to go look at it and let me know if you find it. But, you know, it's still it's just kind of, you know, really fun.
And that that these existed. And then, but even after the field was reduced, you know, the thirty-three Pittsburgh Pirates running back was heading into the head, headed towards the end zone. Stiff arms the opponent but stiff arms him in the face.
And he gets called for an unsportsmanlike penalty at the two-yard line. So, there is a forty-nine-yard penalty as they walk off half the distance. Right.
So that's likely the longest or at least ties for the longest. So in the hundred yard NFL officials have been against the Steelers even before they were the Steelers back in the Pirates days in the first year. Yeah.
Thirty-three. I'm not going to play your game there with the officials who do not understand your Steelers. But the other thing that's just kind of funny is, OK, so now this half-the-distance thing is capped, you know, at 15 yards.
But you mentioned your favorite Steelers and now I grew up a Packer fan, but I've lived in Detroit long enough that there is a certain amount of lioness that has become part of my body. So I can appreciate, given the Lions history, that in 2015, a cornerback to the Lions incurred a 66 yard pass interference penalty. Because, you know, in the NFL, pass interference is a spot foul, right? Right.
So 66 yards downfield, he committed a little P.I. And so it was the Packers, which was OK by my standards. So, you know, 66 yards on a penalty. Yeah, those are astounding facts.
I did an article last year. I did some of the NFL's longest fourth and yardage to go penalties. It was it was fascinating.
I mean, we had a fourth and twenty nine that was converted by Ray Rice in 2012. The Oakland Raiders had a third and forty eight against Kansas City that I think they end up getting first down back in 2013. But in 1971, the Patriots had fourth and sixty three against the Cowboys.
And the biggest one, though, was my Steelers had fourth and seventy four against the Raiders in 1970. And they punted and the punt only traveled fifty five yards. So they were still 20 yards behind the sticks after the fun.
There were no half-the-distance penalties. I was going through that earlier to see if I could find something in there that helps your story, but that's just part of the thing. Like before, like in college football, you really don't have much in the way of there are no consistent statistics until thirty-six or thirty-eight, which it is.
But even then, it was just a subset of all the major colleges. So so, you know, the things so looking for like the longest half the distance penalty, there's no source. You know, there's no database that has that.
You know, you can only search for it using like newspaper databases and, you know, those kinds of things. But the other thing that it brings up and I wanted to ask you about it as a former official. Is, you know, one of the one of the problems football had over the years was.
The lengthier the penalty, the more reluctant officials often were to call the penalty. Because, you know, they you know, they didn't want to be the ones deciding the game. I mean, they would if need be.
But on things like, you know, a lot of the early clipping calls, they weren't, and they didn't want to call clipping. You know, it's kind of just the nature of the game. People accepted it.
So things like that, you know, that. So, that was one of the reasons they got rid of those 25-yard penalties. You know, it just was too much of they felt like it put too much power in the hands of an official who often were overworked back then, especially, you know, they you had three or four men, four-man crews trying to figure out what, you know, watching everybody on the field.
You know, it just wasn't possible. Yeah, I think it's a lot of human nature. I mean, most people, and I will put most before that, don't want to inflict the ultimate sentence upon their fellow man.
So, I mean, it's just human nature. You don't want to do it. I mean, one of the things I guess we could compare in modern times is somebody getting a little loose with their arms against another player.
It's taking a swing at them. And, you know, in high school football, even a swing and a miss is an automatic ejection. And most states have it where you will not play the next game after if you're ejected in a game, you're disqualified not only for that game but for the following game.
So you're really punishing him. So so that goes to the back of officials minds. I mean, it's got to be something very blatant to to get ejected from a game for the most part, especially when you know you're going to get dequeued for the following contest.
But I think that has some merit to what you're saying. A 25-yard penalty. That's that's pretty substantial.
You know, that's a quarter of the field. And could definitely change a game in a heartbeat. Well, you know, but if you think about, you know, back to the origins of penalties, penalties were turnovers or fouls, you know, were turnovers.
The penalty was the loss of the ball. So, you know, forward passes until 1906 forward passes the turnover, you know, on sportsmanship on sportsmen like, you know, conduct until 1889 was a turnover. So, you know, and then dequeues were, you know, much more common.
I mean, people should get up in arms about targeting disqualifications now. But, you know, hey, to me, if, you know, if you if you're going to endanger, you know, if you're going to endanger another player, then that's not good. And I personally love what college football does with the targeting.
And, you know, it's called on the field, and they really take a great look at it to make sure that the official on the field was calling it on the spot to get it right, says it is going to be an impactful thing. It might be the star linebacker getting ejected or staying in the game. You know, it's so many times you see that happen in the last couple of years since they've been doing that and enforcing it and even getting rid of the penalty.
Sometimes I think it's a great thing for football. And I'm glad that they do that. Yeah.
And I mean, people go, and people make a lot of arguments against it. And, you know, hey, you know, when I played, I was aggressive with Bob about, you know, whatever, go ahead and tell your story. But it's like.
You know, you just have to learn not to hit that way in that situation. You know, they all know where the sideline is. They all know, you know, things like when the ball's coming and you can't hit the pass receiver until he gets a ball, all those things.
They're aware. And so, to me, I don't buy the argument that, you know, it can't be controlled. Right.
Go lower. Go higher. Don't hit the guy in the head.
A good legal tackle has just as much impact, I think, as somebody crushing somebody in the head or whatever. And the guy's probably not going to be hurt, you know, by a good tackle on the midsection. You know, just a good wrap-up.
So, yeah, I think that goes a lot to teach the teaching technique of modern coaches. You know, just teach them to hit and wrap up and take a guy down instead of trying to take him down with a blow. Yeah.
You don't need to decapitate. Right. Right.
Well, Tim, great stuff. Great discussion. You know, I know we got a little bit off-topic with the half-distance penalties, but it brings up so many great elements of football, of the game of yesteryear and today.
And you do that each and every day with some of these tidbits, just like this one, where you bring up something that's maybe not the mainstream talk of football history or even modern-day football, but you bring it into a new light and a story of its own. And we'd love for you to share with the listeners how they, too, can enjoy these on a daily basis. Yeah.
Yeah. So, I mean, I just try to find things that I think are interesting every day and that shed light on past practices and hopefully illuminate something about the current game, at least something that we can compare ourselves to. And so, you know, if you're interested in following, just go to footballarchaeology.com and subscribe.
You'll get an email every day in your inbox at 7 o'clock Eastern that has that story. And otherwise, you can follow me on Twitter at football archaeology. Either way, if you're interested, consume it however it is that makes you happy.
Well, Tim, we thank you for once again joining us here. And I'm going to throw this out here, Tim, and hopefully you won't get angry with me. But these are such interesting things.
And I'm sure there are a lot of listeners who may have questions about where something started in football. And maybe we could get them in contact with you. And maybe on a future show, we could answer some of those questions.
So either you go on to Tim's website, footballarchaeology.com, or you can email me at pigskin-dispatch at gmail.com. And send in your questions about where something started. And maybe Tim has it in one of his multiple books or on one of his tidbits. And if not, he loves to put on that research hat and hit the library hard and the newspaper archives.
And we'll try to find something for you. So, Tim, thanks again. And we will talk to you again next week.
Very good. Darin, thank you very much, as always.
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Evolution of College Football Fields
The football fields on which modern games are played have undergone many transformations over the years. The field has been morphed almost as many times as the rules of the game have been changed.
Our guest, Timothy Brown of Football Archaeology, has admired and brought to our attention the work of a historian who has really captured the evolution of the American Football Field.
James Gilbert has put together an impressive research study on the evolution of the American football field over the years of rules revisions and modifications since 1876, complete with graphics. Enjoy this Substack post that he put out recently.
-Transcribed Conversation on Football Field Evolution with Timothy Brown and James Gilbert
Hello, my football friends. This is Darren Hayes of PigskinDispatch.com. Welcome once again to The Pig Pen, your portal to positive football history. And wow, we have a great episode coming on tonight.
We have Timothy P. Brown of Football Archaeology joining us, and we're going to be talking about the football field and some evolutionary changes that have happened to it over the years. Tim, welcome back to The Pig Pen. Darren, good to see you again, as always.
Thanks for having me. Never want to take it for granted that you're going to let me come onto your show. The invitation is always there, my friend, and I'm never going to take it for granted that you join us each week because it's quite a treat for myself and the listeners.
We get to learn about something new with football or be reminded of something maybe that's been long forgotten. And I think that's kind of typical of what we have tonight. You know, something that we see every single game that we watch, and it's so obvious that we probably take it for granted.
That's the football field itself. You know, without it, there's not much of a game going on. And you came across a friend of yours that you guys wrote a piece together a few years ago on the evolution of the football field, and it's really quite interesting.
And maybe you could talk about that a little bit tonight. Yeah, so this is, you know, the friend that you're mentioning is James Gilbert. And, you know, kind of longtime readers or somebody who's gone back through the archives might remember that back in November 2021, he and I co-authored a story about the University of North Carolina team from 1893.
They were the first Southern team to go to the North and play a game because they played Lehigh towards the end of the season in Manhattan. So, you know, he and I kind of worked together on that. And I forget, even now, how he and I first connected.
But, you know, he's in the kind of old football and just general sports, you know, arcane information, you know, like me. And I had, you know, like in my How Football Became Football, I documented at least the major sequences of how the field and markings changed. You know, goalpost locations, all that kind of stuff.
So, I mean, I took it to a certain level. And, but now, James recently launched a Substack newsletter or blog called James's Newsletter. And one of his first articles is an article about the evolution of college football field.
So basically, he's what he did, and he's been doing this for quite some time. He's been creating, you know, graphics, images of the football field and all the markings at each point in time. So, going back to 1876.
And then, you know, each time that it changed, either the dimensions or the markings, location, this or that on the field, he basically created all these graphics to show this information. And then what he's done now is mirror it in a Substack article. So he's got kind of the description of what was happening, you know, why it changed what was happening, the game led to the change, and then just the detailed description of the change.
And, like, when I did mine, I stopped at 1960, but he carried on to really to the present. So all the different changes that, you know, we sometimes don't think about the things like the size of the coach's box, the size of the team, team's box, how far off the sideline to get back, you know, they get back coach has to get back, you know, all that kind of stuff. You know, he just he's outlined, outlined, he put in detail all this information.
So this is one of these where, you know, normally we talk about my tidbits or an article, but this, I just wanted to make sure there's some attention brought to him and the effort he's gone through. Because it's just, you know, it's a great resource. And I don't know anybody who has documented how the field has, has changed over, you know, 147 years of football history, like he has, you know, so it's just a really neat effort.
He's done a couple of other things as well. Yeah, that's. I know exactly what you're talking about. I did a piece similar to you, where I covered the football field probably two or three years ago. Actually, it was an adaptation of an article I wrote back in 2003.
And I had my son, you know, throw some graphics up there. And but James's article, you know, I had the grid field in the early 1900s, but I had it going, you know, goal line to goal line, which it did. But I had forgotten about the aspect of the back in, and I believe it was 1903.
And we were just talking about it. I ran across an article the other day in newspapers.com, where they went from a 25-yard line to a 25-yard line with the grid. And then it was the normal stripes, you know, outside the 25s or to the goal line. Anyway, so just the detail, he's doing that.
And I can tell you from officiating, you know, the 27 years I officiated at the high school level, there was a field change every single year, you know, as you said, the coaches box changing by the yard or, you know, the teams were allowed to the 20s. And it was a 25s or boundary lines or a hash mark is now, you know, instead of three inches, it's four inches wide or whatever, you know, so I can imagine what the collegiate field has been doing over those years. It's probably every year; there's something small.
So, this is really a Galathian chore that James is doing, and it's much appreciated. We'll have a link here in the show notes, folks, to James's site and Pigskin dispatch.
So you can appreciate his work. You know, that's really going to take a lot of effort on his part. And that's appreciated.
Yeah, you know, the thing about it is like there's so, you know, there's a bunch of times when, um, yeah, there's, well, you and I go on a particular site that sometimes they post a pic, you know, these unidentified, you know, people can't figure out where's this, you know, who's this team in this picture? You know, there's a game in a stadium. Where is this? Who's playing? What's the period? So, a lot of times, you can tell certain things just based on the uniforms or the formations, and you have a pretty good sense of what's going on. But there are other times where, you know, if depending on the angle of the shot, you can see the field markings, and that tells you a tremendous amount.
In some cases, like 1903, it tells you exactly what year the game was played. You know, if you have the right kind of angle or the right kind of shot. So, so anyway, so just anybody who enjoys doing that kind of thing, or sometimes finds themselves looking back at an old photo and trying to figure out, well, when, when was this thing from, you know, his site will be really a great reference, you know because it just collects all that kind of information in one place.
You know, the other, the other thing that, another thing that he does that is interesting is, and he, some of his posts on it, on the, on his newsletter reflect this, where he's a, he's a North Carolina, you know, UNC graduate and fan. One of the things he's done is go back and try to figure out where every North Carolina football game was played. And I don't mean that at a very casual level; I mean out of detail.
And so, you know, like, you can go back, and there are all kinds of sites where there's a site called jhowell.net that I use all the time to find the old scores and where games were played and that kind of stuff. And so it might say the game was played in Milwaukee or New Haven or wherever it was, but it doesn't necessarily tell you the exit or the field. Well, a lot of the old football, you know, especially going further back, you know, in the 1800s, you know, maybe up till 1920, sometimes these games were just played in some local park, you know, and they slapped up temporary stands or the games were played in a minor league baseball park that got torn down 80 years ago.
And now there's, you know, an expressway is sitting on top of it or, you know, a shopping mall or whatever it is. There are all kinds of these past stadiums that just are no longer there. And in a bunch of cases, kind of people have lost track of where they are.
So he goes in, and I don't really understand all the resources that he uses, but I know he uses like these old, there's a bunch of online through like Library of Congress, there's these online insurance maps that used to document, you know, the streets and major cities and all that kind of stuff and which buildings were where. And so I think he uses those kinds of things and all kinds of stuff from, you know, the newspapers telling you, well, it's at the intersection of 42nd and Western or wherever. And so then he finds where this game or where this field was and then plots the field atop, you know, what it looks like today, like in Google Maps.
So it's just really kind of fun. And then he's created some databases that, you know, dig into other information. You know, it's very UNC-specific.
So, I don't necessarily care about UNC, but I really appreciate his digging into it. It's just, you know, just getting the details of a particular topic. But just think about all the fields that it covers, you know, everybody that UNC traveled to play over the years, where their stadium is, you know, you're going to know where Duke played their games when they were, you know, Trinity College or whatever, you know, at the time. So that's some really interesting stuff.
I'll have to add that to my bookmarks and check that out because, you know, you have like the uniform sites, you know, the gridiron uniform database, and you have the helmets, you know, sites that you can go to and see where helmets are from here. Now that having a resource to look at fields of an era and where football stadiums were, you know, that's pretty cool too. So that's why I'm sure a lot of people will be interested in having that information too.
So good job, James. Yeah, no, it's just kind of fun stuff. And, you know, just the, you know, again, as I said, I don't know the method that he uses to get there, but, unfortunately, he couldn't join us tonight.
Otherwise, you know, he wouldn't would have done so. But so anyway, it's just interesting stuff. And, you know, if you're enough of a geek, like you and I are, you know, you can really, you just, you know, it's like you see somebody who's got an interest in this sport or this aspect of the sport, and they dig into it, or they collect, you know, certain things.
It's just one of those things. There's nothing I had thought of, but I just have a really deep devotion to the particular aspect of the game. Yeah. Well, let's use a little bit of James's information.
Okay. Now, you just recently saw this and appreciated it. What's something that jumped out at you that either you didn't realize, or maybe you forgot, and it brought a different light on what James did in his fieldwork?
Yeah. You know, I think the, I don't know that for me it's, it's any one thing. I know he just did it, just did an article.
I think maybe it was today or the other day where, you know, he's pointing out that North Carolina is going to play a game in Charlotte. You know, I think they're playing at the Panther stadium. And so he's, the articles about, Hey, they played, you know, it's the eighth most frequent city that they played, you know, but for them, it's kind of like, you know, they played, they played at a lot of intermediate cities, you know? So, I mean, teams used to do that all the time.
I've got an article that's my Saturday tidbit is about this, where, you know, teams traveling, you know, we've got this big thing about the West coast athletes are going to be traveling to get to the Big 10 schools and all that kind of stuff, you know, with the conference modifications. But back in the day, when people traveled by train, they spent a lot of time on the train, too. And so a lot of times, they find these cities halfway between one another, and both teams would meet there and be a bigger city, especially if they were kind of rural schools.
So they played in all kinds of locations, you know? And so, but in North Carolina in particular, it just seems like they played a lot. They played in a lot of places, you know, a lot of different intermediate towns. And maybe it's just the geography of, you know, where they were in the transportation network at the time. But yeah, it's just kind of interesting, all the different places that they played.
Oh, very cool. All right. Well, why don't you go ahead and if you have James's information, if you want to call it out now, so people can do it.
But again, you know, if you're driving or something, you can go to the show notes and get the link there. But Tim, go ahead and let us know where we can find James. Yeah.
As I said, he's on Substack, which is just a platform. You can find him at jameslegilbert.substack.com. And I checked beforehand, just Googled James Lee Gilbert Substack. And, you know, it's one of the first things that comes up.
Then you'll have the link, you know, the actual link in the show notes. But James Lee Gilbert, Substack, should get you there. All right.
And folks, the graphics are really splendid. You're going to be really pleased, I think, when you see these graphics, especially of the football field evolution that we started talking about. I got to go and check out all these coordinates of where the fields were. I have to go. I appreciate that here when we get done.
So I can't wait to do that. You just added another thing to my to-do list tonight. So, thanks, James.
So far, he doesn't have a lot of those on this site. But you know, he's done a bunch of them in the past. So, I hope you know that he recycles them and republishes them on Substack.
Well, Tim, wow, that is great stuff. Thanks for bringing this to our attention so we can appreciate his work and your work.
Why don't you tell us how folks can get your daily news? Yep, just go to footballarchaeology.com, and you can subscribe. You'll get an email every night at seven o'clock Eastern with today's article. Otherwise, you can follow me on Twitter, Threads, or the Substack app. All right, Timothy P. Brown, footballarchaeology.com. We thank you once again for joining us, and we will talk to you again next week.
Very good. Thanks.
-Frequently Asked Questions About an American Football Field:
-How long is a football field? A football field from goal line to goal line is 100 yards long with two ten yard deep end zones. Want to know more about the evolution of the playing field, you are in the right place as we covered it here:Field Size Evolution.
-How wide is a football field? Most levels of American football play on a field that is 53.3 yards wide.
-What are the hash marks for? The hash marks are used for a few different things during a game, but most importantly they are the inbounds spot for the ball to rest fo the next play adjacent to where it became dead on the previous play outside of the hash marks or out of bounds. Here is a great piece explaining the has marks and their history and evolution: The Fumble Fiasco Out-of-Bounds Oddities in Early Football.
Our guest, Timothy Brown of Football Archaeology, has admired and brought to our attention the work of a historian who has really captured the evolution of the American Football Field.
James Gilbert has put together an impressive research study on the evolution of the American football field over the years of rules revisions and modifications since 1876, complete with graphics. Enjoy this Substack post that he put out recently.
-Transcribed Conversation on Football Field Evolution with Timothy Brown and James Gilbert
Hello, my football friends. This is Darren Hayes of PigskinDispatch.com. Welcome once again to The Pig Pen, your portal to positive football history. And wow, we have a great episode coming on tonight.
We have Timothy P. Brown of Football Archaeology joining us, and we're going to be talking about the football field and some evolutionary changes that have happened to it over the years. Tim, welcome back to The Pig Pen. Darren, good to see you again, as always.
Thanks for having me. Never want to take it for granted that you're going to let me come onto your show. The invitation is always there, my friend, and I'm never going to take it for granted that you join us each week because it's quite a treat for myself and the listeners.
We get to learn about something new with football or be reminded of something maybe that's been long forgotten. And I think that's kind of typical of what we have tonight. You know, something that we see every single game that we watch, and it's so obvious that we probably take it for granted.
That's the football field itself. You know, without it, there's not much of a game going on. And you came across a friend of yours that you guys wrote a piece together a few years ago on the evolution of the football field, and it's really quite interesting.
And maybe you could talk about that a little bit tonight. Yeah, so this is, you know, the friend that you're mentioning is James Gilbert. And, you know, kind of longtime readers or somebody who's gone back through the archives might remember that back in November 2021, he and I co-authored a story about the University of North Carolina team from 1893.
They were the first Southern team to go to the North and play a game because they played Lehigh towards the end of the season in Manhattan. So, you know, he and I kind of worked together on that. And I forget, even now, how he and I first connected.
But, you know, he's in the kind of old football and just general sports, you know, arcane information, you know, like me. And I had, you know, like in my How Football Became Football, I documented at least the major sequences of how the field and markings changed. You know, goalpost locations, all that kind of stuff.
So, I mean, I took it to a certain level. And, but now, James recently launched a Substack newsletter or blog called James's Newsletter. And one of his first articles is an article about the evolution of college football field.
So basically, he's what he did, and he's been doing this for quite some time. He's been creating, you know, graphics, images of the football field and all the markings at each point in time. So, going back to 1876.
And then, you know, each time that it changed, either the dimensions or the markings, location, this or that on the field, he basically created all these graphics to show this information. And then what he's done now is mirror it in a Substack article. So he's got kind of the description of what was happening, you know, why it changed what was happening, the game led to the change, and then just the detailed description of the change.
And, like, when I did mine, I stopped at 1960, but he carried on to really to the present. So all the different changes that, you know, we sometimes don't think about the things like the size of the coach's box, the size of the team, team's box, how far off the sideline to get back, you know, they get back coach has to get back, you know, all that kind of stuff. You know, he just he's outlined, outlined, he put in detail all this information.
So this is one of these where, you know, normally we talk about my tidbits or an article, but this, I just wanted to make sure there's some attention brought to him and the effort he's gone through. Because it's just, you know, it's a great resource. And I don't know anybody who has documented how the field has, has changed over, you know, 147 years of football history, like he has, you know, so it's just a really neat effort.
He's done a couple of other things as well. Yeah, that's. I know exactly what you're talking about. I did a piece similar to you, where I covered the football field probably two or three years ago. Actually, it was an adaptation of an article I wrote back in 2003.
And I had my son, you know, throw some graphics up there. And but James's article, you know, I had the grid field in the early 1900s, but I had it going, you know, goal line to goal line, which it did. But I had forgotten about the aspect of the back in, and I believe it was 1903.
And we were just talking about it. I ran across an article the other day in newspapers.com, where they went from a 25-yard line to a 25-yard line with the grid. And then it was the normal stripes, you know, outside the 25s or to the goal line. Anyway, so just the detail, he's doing that.
And I can tell you from officiating, you know, the 27 years I officiated at the high school level, there was a field change every single year, you know, as you said, the coaches box changing by the yard or, you know, the teams were allowed to the 20s. And it was a 25s or boundary lines or a hash mark is now, you know, instead of three inches, it's four inches wide or whatever, you know, so I can imagine what the collegiate field has been doing over those years. It's probably every year; there's something small.
So, this is really a Galathian chore that James is doing, and it's much appreciated. We'll have a link here in the show notes, folks, to James's site and Pigskin dispatch.
So you can appreciate his work. You know, that's really going to take a lot of effort on his part. And that's appreciated.
Yeah, you know, the thing about it is like there's so, you know, there's a bunch of times when, um, yeah, there's, well, you and I go on a particular site that sometimes they post a pic, you know, these unidentified, you know, people can't figure out where's this, you know, who's this team in this picture? You know, there's a game in a stadium. Where is this? Who's playing? What's the period? So, a lot of times, you can tell certain things just based on the uniforms or the formations, and you have a pretty good sense of what's going on. But there are other times where, you know, if depending on the angle of the shot, you can see the field markings, and that tells you a tremendous amount.
In some cases, like 1903, it tells you exactly what year the game was played. You know, if you have the right kind of angle or the right kind of shot. So, so anyway, so just anybody who enjoys doing that kind of thing, or sometimes finds themselves looking back at an old photo and trying to figure out, well, when, when was this thing from, you know, his site will be really a great reference, you know because it just collects all that kind of information in one place.
You know, the other, the other thing that, another thing that he does that is interesting is, and he, some of his posts on it, on the, on his newsletter reflect this, where he's a, he's a North Carolina, you know, UNC graduate and fan. One of the things he's done is go back and try to figure out where every North Carolina football game was played. And I don't mean that at a very casual level; I mean out of detail.
And so, you know, like, you can go back, and there are all kinds of sites where there's a site called jhowell.net that I use all the time to find the old scores and where games were played and that kind of stuff. And so it might say the game was played in Milwaukee or New Haven or wherever it was, but it doesn't necessarily tell you the exit or the field. Well, a lot of the old football, you know, especially going further back, you know, in the 1800s, you know, maybe up till 1920, sometimes these games were just played in some local park, you know, and they slapped up temporary stands or the games were played in a minor league baseball park that got torn down 80 years ago.
And now there's, you know, an expressway is sitting on top of it or, you know, a shopping mall or whatever it is. There are all kinds of these past stadiums that just are no longer there. And in a bunch of cases, kind of people have lost track of where they are.
So he goes in, and I don't really understand all the resources that he uses, but I know he uses like these old, there's a bunch of online through like Library of Congress, there's these online insurance maps that used to document, you know, the streets and major cities and all that kind of stuff and which buildings were where. And so I think he uses those kinds of things and all kinds of stuff from, you know, the newspapers telling you, well, it's at the intersection of 42nd and Western or wherever. And so then he finds where this game or where this field was and then plots the field atop, you know, what it looks like today, like in Google Maps.
So it's just really kind of fun. And then he's created some databases that, you know, dig into other information. You know, it's very UNC-specific.
So, I don't necessarily care about UNC, but I really appreciate his digging into it. It's just, you know, just getting the details of a particular topic. But just think about all the fields that it covers, you know, everybody that UNC traveled to play over the years, where their stadium is, you know, you're going to know where Duke played their games when they were, you know, Trinity College or whatever, you know, at the time. So that's some really interesting stuff.
I'll have to add that to my bookmarks and check that out because, you know, you have like the uniform sites, you know, the gridiron uniform database, and you have the helmets, you know, sites that you can go to and see where helmets are from here. Now that having a resource to look at fields of an era and where football stadiums were, you know, that's pretty cool too. So that's why I'm sure a lot of people will be interested in having that information too.
So good job, James. Yeah, no, it's just kind of fun stuff. And, you know, just the, you know, again, as I said, I don't know the method that he uses to get there, but, unfortunately, he couldn't join us tonight.
Otherwise, you know, he wouldn't would have done so. But so anyway, it's just interesting stuff. And, you know, if you're enough of a geek, like you and I are, you know, you can really, you just, you know, it's like you see somebody who's got an interest in this sport or this aspect of the sport, and they dig into it, or they collect, you know, certain things.
It's just one of those things. There's nothing I had thought of, but I just have a really deep devotion to the particular aspect of the game. Yeah. Well, let's use a little bit of James's information.
Okay. Now, you just recently saw this and appreciated it. What's something that jumped out at you that either you didn't realize, or maybe you forgot, and it brought a different light on what James did in his fieldwork?
Yeah. You know, I think the, I don't know that for me it's, it's any one thing. I know he just did it, just did an article.
I think maybe it was today or the other day where, you know, he's pointing out that North Carolina is going to play a game in Charlotte. You know, I think they're playing at the Panther stadium. And so he's, the articles about, Hey, they played, you know, it's the eighth most frequent city that they played, you know, but for them, it's kind of like, you know, they played, they played at a lot of intermediate cities, you know? So, I mean, teams used to do that all the time.
I've got an article that's my Saturday tidbit is about this, where, you know, teams traveling, you know, we've got this big thing about the West coast athletes are going to be traveling to get to the Big 10 schools and all that kind of stuff, you know, with the conference modifications. But back in the day, when people traveled by train, they spent a lot of time on the train, too. And so a lot of times, they find these cities halfway between one another, and both teams would meet there and be a bigger city, especially if they were kind of rural schools.
So they played in all kinds of locations, you know? And so, but in North Carolina in particular, it just seems like they played a lot. They played in a lot of places, you know, a lot of different intermediate towns. And maybe it's just the geography of, you know, where they were in the transportation network at the time. But yeah, it's just kind of interesting, all the different places that they played.
Oh, very cool. All right. Well, why don't you go ahead and if you have James's information, if you want to call it out now, so people can do it.
But again, you know, if you're driving or something, you can go to the show notes and get the link there. But Tim, go ahead and let us know where we can find James. Yeah.
As I said, he's on Substack, which is just a platform. You can find him at jameslegilbert.substack.com. And I checked beforehand, just Googled James Lee Gilbert Substack. And, you know, it's one of the first things that comes up.
Then you'll have the link, you know, the actual link in the show notes. But James Lee Gilbert, Substack, should get you there. All right.
And folks, the graphics are really splendid. You're going to be really pleased, I think, when you see these graphics, especially of the football field evolution that we started talking about. I got to go and check out all these coordinates of where the fields were. I have to go. I appreciate that here when we get done.
So I can't wait to do that. You just added another thing to my to-do list tonight. So, thanks, James.
So far, he doesn't have a lot of those on this site. But you know, he's done a bunch of them in the past. So, I hope you know that he recycles them and republishes them on Substack.
Well, Tim, wow, that is great stuff. Thanks for bringing this to our attention so we can appreciate his work and your work.
Why don't you tell us how folks can get your daily news? Yep, just go to footballarchaeology.com, and you can subscribe. You'll get an email every night at seven o'clock Eastern with today's article. Otherwise, you can follow me on Twitter, Threads, or the Substack app. All right, Timothy P. Brown, footballarchaeology.com. We thank you once again for joining us, and we will talk to you again next week.
Very good. Thanks.
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-How long is a football field? A football field from goal line to goal line is 100 yards long with two ten yard deep end zones. Want to know more about the evolution of the playing field, you are in the right place as we covered it here:Field Size Evolution.
-How wide is a football field? Most levels of American football play on a field that is 53.3 yards wide.
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The Origins Of Football Player Numbers
Sometimes when you round the corner at a location you have visited many times before, you see something new. A similar feeling occurs when encountering a story that sheds new light on an old topic you’ve researched in the past. The other day, however, I found an article about Carlisle’s hidden ball trick, when Pop Warner had football-shaped brown patches sewn on the front of Carlisle’s uniforms for their 1902 game at Harvard. When Harvard kicked off, Carlisle retrieved the ball before the — www.footballarchaeology.com
Ever wondered why quarterbacks wear the number 12 and running backs rock the digit 28? Today's episode dives into the fascinating origin story of American football jersey numbers. We'll travel back in time, uncovering the surprising reasons these numbers were first stitched onto jerseys, and how they evolved into the iconic system we know today. Get ready for a journey through gridiron history, filled with unexpected twists, forgotten rules, and the stories of the legendary players who cemented the tradition of numbered jerseys in the game we love. So, buckle up, grab your favorite jersey (with its number!), and join us as we unveil the fascinating tale behind football jersey numbers!
The early beginnings and origins of the uniform numbers on players are explored in this Football Archaeology feature.
-Transcribed Conversation on Player Number Origins with Timothy Brown
Hello, my football friends. This is Darin Hayes of PigskinDispatch.com. Welcome once again to The Pig Pen, your portal to positive football history. And welcome to Tuesday. You know what it is. It's footballarchaeology.com day. And Timothy P. Brown of footballarchaeology.com is here to talk about another interesting tidbit he's had out recently. Tim, welcome back to The Pig Pen.
Darin, how are you? Good to see you. I hope I've got your number tonight.
Well, you got my number. I don't know what the origin of that number is, but I think we're going to find out some of the origins of some player numbers. You had a recent tidbit on that very subject.
And it's something, you know, again, we've talked about this before in other episodes that we've talked about. Some things that we just don't appreciate all the time. You know, what the player number does on the jersey, you know, it's it's identifies the player.
It's almost like their name, you know, for a lot of places. For example, when you see the number 12 out there on a New England jersey, you're probably thinking of Tom Brady. First thing, you know, just but we associate that number with the player.
But it goes back into some things that are beyond that even. And I'd sure like to know the origins of these player numbers. Yeah.
So so some of this this one, you know, I've written about the origins of player numbers a bunch of times in the past. And but I was trying. Well, I was I did an article recently about the the hidden ball trick that the Carlisle executed against Harvard in 1903.
And just in doing that research, reading an article, there was a comment made. And so just to kind of reset the stage on that, you know, what happened is that the. Carlisle.
So, you know, brown patches on the front of their jerseys that match the color of the ball. And so that they could, you know, have their back, who didn't get the ball or whomever else kind of hunched over, act like they're carrying the ball. And, you know, the defense would be confused.
So and so, then they did that. But then they also, in that game, you know, they basically executed this play where there was a. On the kickoff, they were receiving a second-half kickoff, but anyway, they're receiving the kickoff. The Carlisle players go back to form a wedge, and the guy who gets the ball or, you know, who caught the ball.
You know, he kind of gathers the wedge in that web and stuffs the ball in the back under the shirt in the back of one of his teammates who had this elastic band at the bottom of his jersey. So the ball would stay there, you know, under the shirt. And so then they then they boom, they all scatter in different directions.
And this guy who's a was a guard or a tackle who doesn't look like a guy who you would give the ball to starts running upfield, acting like he's going to block, you know, for one of his teammates. And so because he's acting like he's blocking, all the Harvard guys are avoiding him. And he just takes off, runs down the field, and scores a touchdown.
So, you know, that's kind of everybody, you know, I'd been aware of that story and all that kind of thing. And he probably looked like Quasimodo running down the field, too. That's right.
The guy had no idea what to do. But there was a comment made in one of the articles about the game where the guy said, you know, the reporter said it would be great if all the players had numbers; we would have known who this guy was as he was running down the field. And so I thought, OK, I'd never come across that before.
And this is a 1903 game. So it's just got me to go back one more time to look at, OK, when, when did, as I had previously come across Amos Alonzo Stagg calling for numbers in 1901. So, two years before this Harvard-Carlisle game, I just figured, OK, I'll go again.
Can I find anybody else mentioning player numbers? And so then I ended up finding a 1904 reference. And I'm sorry, an 1894 reference from the Harvard-Yale game where some guy along the sidelines must have been some influential alum who said that you know, the players should be numbered. His comment was that the average observer finds as many differences in individuals as in a flock of blackbirds.
So, the first time I heard that reference. But, you know, but the point was that you know, you couldn't tell players apart half the time back then because they didn't have numbers. You know, they, they all kind of, the nature of the game, everybody bunched together.
It's hard to tell who was who, you know, who got the ball, who advanced it, who made the tackle. So, you know, people then, you know, people like Stagg started promoting using numbers. But the challenge and the pushback that they got was people saying, you know, there were basically three main challenges.
One was that they said if you number the players, which they'd started to do in baseball, and I think at first, it actually occurred in rugby in New Zealand. But if you number the players, then that promotes individualism. Football is a team sport.
And so we don't want to promote individuals. So it's this idealistic argument. There was also, from a coaching standpoint, a lot of coaches said, I don't want to number my players because that makes it easier for scouts or for the opposing player to identify who was who.
And to quickly figure out, OK, this is Smith's best running back. You have to watch out for Smith, and you have to make sure you know where Smith is lining up in the playoffs. Now, that all seems kind of dumb. I mean, I get it, but especially from the opposing player's standpoint, no one was wearing numbers on the front of their jerseys; it was only on their backs.
So the opposing players couldn't see them when they lined up anyways, you know, so, so that, you know, but that was, you know, that was the main challenge. And then there was also, you know, people also would say, well, football is for these college players, it's a college sport, you know, there's none of this pro stuff yet or very little of it. And so it's not for the fans.
We don't want to change the game, we don't want to do things in the game to make fans happy; everything should be to make the players happy. Now, you know, as money increasingly got involved in things, and the fans were paying for the players, there are professional marketers of the gridiron just running off the podcast right now.
But, you know, that was a very common sentiment. So anyways, so then it. You know that, as far as I've been able to research, the earliest game in which players have war numbers, and it was a picture in the newspaper, and I published the picture a bunch of times, was a 1905 Iowa State at Drake game on Thanksgiving Day, and both teams were numbers and then, you know, over the next four or five years pit.
As far as I know, Pitt was the second team. They like to claim they were the first because they ignore the night, the Iowa State v. Drake game. Wichita State in 1908. Pitt was the first team in 1909. As far as I can tell, they were the first team to wear them for all games because a lot of times, the team would say I'll wear them, but only if the opponent wears the pit was like no, we're wearing them.
Part of their motivation was that they loved selling scorecards. So there's money involved, right?
Right. And then, in 1909, Michigan and Marquette formed, and then the same year, Cincinnati was too late for them, so those were, as far as I know, the whatever six or seven earliest examples of teams and/or games were. You know, players were numbers.
Yeah, you've done a great job of telling us that, and as you said, you've had a bunch of other fascinating posts on the numbers and some of their intricacies. We'll try to throw some of those links into the pigskin dispatch for this episode. So people can go back and enjoy some of that work with the alphanumerical and all the other crazy Roman numeral numbers. Yeah, four-digit numbers, and we'll put some of those up to so people can enjoy because there's a lot to do with the numbers on jerseys, and it's a lot of fun, so we appreciate that you're doing that and doing the research on it.
You do research on some aspects of football, like every day. It's what you have: plucking things out of the air all over the place and taking us on a wild ride. Sometimes, you have themes like these numbers, but they usually spare my part. Where can people enjoy your tidbits each day? Just go to football archaeology calm.
You can subscribe there. If you subscribe, you'll get an email every night at seven o'clock Eastern with that, you know, that day's episode, and you know there are people who read them five minutes after I publish them, there are other people who, you know, I can just tell by, you know, certain patterns that I can see in the data. Some people like storm up, and they read them on the weekend, so at least you know you have them. If you get the email, you have them. Otherwise, you can follow me on Twitter, Threads, or the subject platform.
All right, Timothy Brown of footballarchaeology.com we thank you very much, sir, for joining us here and we will talk to you again next Tuesday. Very good. Thanks as always.
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-Who are some of the most famous NFL players at each jersey number? From Red Grange's jersey number 77 to Tom Brady's iconic number 12, a slew of NFL players made their digits proud. Want to know more? You are in the right place as we covered all 100 jersey numbers and the best to wear each:About Football By Numbers.
The Kicking Women Of 1937
American University in Washington, D.C., has a football history, but not much of one. They fielded teams from 1925 to 1941, dropped the sport due to WWII, and never brought it back. With good reason. They went 24-67-6 during its time with their 1926 record of 4-3-1 marking their only winning season. Two years later, they played and lost four games in four weeks to Gettysburg College 81-0, Catholic University 69-0, St. John’s University 63-0, and Gallaudet University 37-7. — www.footballarchaeology.com
Women playing football is not a new concept as we have seen time and time again through history. Heck we have even read and heard of some ladies that play on the men's teams.
Timothy P. Brown does an outstanding job of retelling the story of 1937 when some young ladies vied to play NCAA Football with the men.
-Transcribed Conversation with Timothy Brown on the 1937 Kicking Women
Hello, my football friends, this is Darin Hayes of PigskinDispatch.com. Welcome once again to The Pig Pen, your portal to positive football history. And welcome to another Tuesday as FootballArcheology.com's Timothy P. Brown joins us each and every Tuesday to talk about one of his recent tidbits that he writes about football history past and shares it with us. Tim, welcome back to The Pig Pen.
Hey, thanks, Darin, for the chat. I hope the listeners get a kick out of this evening's topic.
Well, I don't know if the men will, but maybe the women will, because it's OK. Yeah, you have a great title that really grabs the reader's attention.
And I remember when this came out back a few months ago, the Kicking Women of 1937, that could, you know, grab attention in multiple different ways. But from a football aspect, it's really intriguing to think about women kicking football anytime, especially back in the 1930s. So why don't you share the story, please? Well, I mean, you know, now it's not entirely uncommon, right? You know, I mean, it's been, oh, whatever, past 15 years, something like that.
You know, there's been various women at the high school or college level doing some kicking and recently had a woman playing defensive end or outside linebacker and putting the putting a smack on the quarterback. So this one is kind of one of those stories where it's like, you know, it's one of these where I stumbled across it when I was reading something else. And I saw this story about George Washington University, which is based in Washington, D.C. They have had what would never be considered a storied football program.
For whatever reason, they could never get it together. They were not a very good team, but they played football from 1928 to 1941.
And they're trying to turn the program around. I mean, it's a fine university and everything. They want to be proud of their of everything that they do.
So they went out, and hired Gus Welsh, to be their new head coach in 1937. So Welsh was the quarterback at Carlisle when Jim Thorpe was playing. And then I think he was a little bit younger than Thorpe, but he continued playing there.
He ended up playing in the NFL for four or five years. Then he went on to be the head coach at Washington State and then somewhere in Virginia. Then he was the coach at Haskell, you know, which is one of the Indian schools in Kansas.
So he'd been around a little bit but ended up at George Washington University. And, you know, he's trying to get this program resurrected and get some attention because, you know, he at one point made a quote that it was like, you know, the only way we're going to get any attention is to play a halftime of the Redskins game. So, you know, so he's just trying to get some attention for the team.
And so, you know, in October of 37, the story starts floating around that that he's got a co-ed, so a woman who's attending George Washington who's going to kick for him, you know, kick extra points. And. You know, it just kept popping up in the paper.
She's going to she's going to kick in the upcoming game or this Saturday. And then it didn't happen. And, you know, it goes on a couple of two, three times.
And so. And there's even, you know, I found one photograph that was in the newspaper of him holding the ball. So, you know, Gus Welsh is holding the ball.
And this kicker was supposed to be a barefooted kicker. But there's this woman wearing a skirt and she's got shoes on, but she's still, you know, so publicity kind of picture. But it kind of just goes on and it's going to happen.
And the student body votes for it. They support this program or, you know, having a female kicker. And then they kind of at the last minute, the faculty says, no, go.
You know, they would not allow one of their women students to to participate in the football program. So the day that that hits the newspaper, there's a story right next to it that talks about Tuskegee Institute down in, you know, in the south where they're claiming they have a kicker as well, a woman kicker. And that the plan is that she's going to kick in the rivalry game on Thanksgiving Day against Alabama State.
So the difference, though, is that Tuskegee's article names the woman and it was Mabel Smith. And so as I dug into, OK, well, who's Mabel Smith? You know, what's your background? It turns out that Mabel Smith, at the time, was the American record holder in the long jump, which, you know, she had set she had set the record at the AAU meet in 1936, which was the qualifying meet for the 36 Olympics. And unfortunately for her, the women's long jump was not an event at the 36 Olympics.
It didn't come into like 48. So she would have been the U.S. rep had she had they had the long jump at the time. But they didn't.
So she but she held that record. I mean, it really it was an amazing jump. And she held that record into the 1960s.
And she said in 30, that would have that would have been the Berlin Olympics. Right. We're Hitler.
That's right. Jesse Owens. Yeah.
OK. Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
So. Yeah. And in fact, I think she had a teammate at Tuskegee who made the team because she ran in the sprints or something like that.
But in the event, so, you know, obviously a premier athlete. So, you know, it's certainly believable that she could be an effective kicker. And then, you know, as it turned out.
On game day, she was on the field, but she was only there because they were recognizing that year Tuskegee had won the AAU championship, which was not just colleges; it was, you know, any club team, anybody at the time. They were the national champions for women's track and field. And so she was on the field to be recognized for that.
And Tuskegee won the game 14 to nothing. So they did kick two extra points, but it was there, I think, half-baffled back, you know, but one of the male players who kicked the extra points. But the other thing about Mabel is that she, you know, graduated from Tuskegee.
And then I forget where she did her master's, but she got a master's degree. Then she ended up getting a doctorate at Cal Berkeley. And then, you know, became a faculty member at Texas Southern and taught there for, you know, basically spent her career teaching, teaching at Texas Southern and kind of an education department sort of arena.
But anyway, so just an amazing, amazing person. And, you know, life, life history is just kind of cool. Even though she didn't get to kick in the game, you know, she had a pretty amazing story.
Yeah, boy, the brains and the athleticism. That's pretty amazing to be a world-class athlete at the time in multiple sports, you know, get attention. And you named four different universities.
There was a tour of the whole United States where she went and taught. So that's pretty incredible. And I'll start off with that sort of publicity stunt that the coach was doing at George Washington.
So interesting that that's kind of ironic that you found those in the same newspaper side by side of a woman kicker. So very, very. Yeah.
I mean, I suspect what happened is, you know, I don't know if Tuskegee picked up on the George Washington thing or if they were just kind of going to do it anyway. But I'm sure the editor found that second story and said, OK, let's put these two together. I was fortunate enough to find the one.
And that led me to the second one because otherwise, it was kind of like, oh, you know, it's a much better story with the Tuskegee side of it. Right. So definitely.
Well, Tim, you have some interesting items like this each and every day on some great football past stories and, you know, just interesting little tidbits that you call them appropriately. And maybe you could share with the listeners where they too can join in on the fun and read these tidbits each day. Sure.
So just go to www.footballarchaeology.com. That's a Substack application and our newsletter blog site. And so if you do that, you can subscribe, and you'll get an email at seven o'clock Eastern every night, and you'll get the story delivered to you that way. Then read it at your leisure.
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Whatever works for you. Yeah, that's a great variety. And, you know, no excuse not to be able to get it, whether you're on the go or at home or want to catch it a couple of days later or a week later or a year later.
I find myself going back through some of the ones I read a year ago. And they're still interesting. They're evergreen, with their history and fascinating stuff.
And you do a great job. So I appreciate it. Well, I sometimes find myself going, oh, boy, I don't remember writing that one because I've got 800 of them out there now.
So something like that. So, yeah, I forget that I've even written on some of the topics. Yeah, it's a it's great, phenomenal pieces that you write there.
And they're very interesting. So we appreciate you coming on here each Tuesday and talking about one of them with us and sharing your knowledge and some football history. And we would like to talk to you again next Tuesday.
Very good. Thanks, Darin. Look forward to chatting.
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When It Rains, It Punts, 65 Times
Football fans who enjoy oddball stories from the game’s history are familiar with the 1939 Texas Tech-Centenary game played in Shreveport, Louisiana. Played in a torrential downpour, the rain-soaked field made it difficult to run or pass, so the teams repeatedly punted the ball to one another until they did so 77 times, setting a still-standing record for combined punts in a game. Game records were set for most punts by a player, most punting yards by a player, most punt returns by a player, a — www.footballarchaeology.com
We have games in recent times where punters have seldom taken the field. These are generally either high-scoring affairs or games with a bunch of turnovers, or both.
Times have changed. it used to be that punting was one of the most successful weapons of an offense. A team may even doi it on first down to try and flip the field.
Timothy Brown explores this with us in a conversation about one of his Tidbits on football archaeology.com but also tells of a game with a crazy amount of punts.
-Transcribed Conversation of Punting 67 Times with Timothy Brown
Hello, my football friends. This is Darin Hayes of PigskinDispatch.com. Welcome once again to The Pig Pen, your portal to positive football history. Welcome to another edition, where we will visit with our friend Timothy P. Brown of FootballArcheology.com. Tim, welcome back to The Pig Pen.
Good to see you again. Looking forward to having a little chat about football history. Yeah, this is a really interesting and unique point in football history.
I don't know if I've ever heard of this before until I was reading your tidbit recently, and you titled it, when it rains, it punts 65 times. Now, tell us, somebody punted in a game, or two teams punted a game 65 times. Can that actually be? Yes, it's even worse than that.
In another game, they punted 77 times. Oh, my goodness. So this is, I mean, I think a lot of times with people are kind of football history geeks, they're aware of the 1939 Texas Tech Centenary game.
And that was played in Shreveport. So Centenary was the home team. And it was just, I don't know if there was a hurricane that had come through or whatever, but it was raining.
And just, you know, so you just think about it. It was raining a lot in Louisiana that weekend. And so they, you know, play their game on a Saturday afternoon.
And it was just such a mess. I mean, back then teams punted a lot anyways. But it was just at the Centenary game, it was just, it's like a quagmire, just a muddy field, just puddles of water, you know, a couple of inches of water standing on the field.
These teams, basically, couldn't move the ball very well. You know, the balls were just like waterlogged. You certainly couldn't pass it.
So they just resorted to pretty much punting on almost every down. You know, they get the ball, and they just turn around and punt it, hoping that the other team is going to fumble it. And there were a lot of fumbles in the game.
But, you know, so they were basically playing the field position thing. And so, in the Texas Tech Centenary game, they literally punted 77 times in the game. So that was the all-time record.
There were 12 NCAA records set in that game, the record for most punts, most punt yardage, most punt returns, most punt return yardage, and then like individual records for most punts, most punt returns, most punt yardage, yada, yada, yada. And so actually this game also holds the NCAA record where most records set in the game. So it's just one of those really bizarre games and it ends in a 0-0 tie.
So I'd been aware of this game for some time. And then, one way or another, while researching something else, I came across a game that was played the same day and two hours north by interstate today. Now there weren't interstates then, but you know, so somewhere not that far north.
And it was a game between Wichita Baptist and Arkansas Teachers College, now Central Arkansas. And so, like the Centenary Texas Tech game, it was tied 0-0 at the half. You know, same kind of thing; they're punting all the time.
So then six minutes into the third quarter, Wachita punts for the 46th time or between the two teams, you know, they executed the 46th punt of the game, and it goes out of bounds at the yard line of Arkansas teachers. So, what do Arkansas teachers do? They say, okay, we're going to punt. So on first down, they try to punt, but the ball's blocked, or the punt is blocked, rolls into the end zone, and the punter falls on it for a safety.
And then, you know, so now it's 2-0. And basically, the rest of the game is the same stuff. It's one punt after another or nearly so.
And so, you know, they ended up this in that game, they ended up 65 times they punted from scrimmage. There was also the punt following the safety. So, you know, they really had 66 punts in the game.
So, but at least, you know, the game ended in a 2-0 score. So, at least, they did that. They punted all those times, and at least they came out with a winner.
Whereas the other game was a tie game. So it was like, yeah, nothing even happened, right? So anyway, it's just absolutely crazy to think about, you know, in the days before effective drainage systems on a lot of these fields, and you get enough water, and there's just not a whole lot we can do. Yeah.
Okay. Now I've got a question. All right.
Now, I understand the concept of punting. The rules, you know, were somewhat different back and back even before this. White teams punted when they got in trouble deep in their own end, but in an era where you're not throwing a forward pass as much as we do today. And we know, you know, like the old saying, there are only three things that can happen when you throw a pass, and two of them are bad.
Well, snapping a punt, which is, you know, a long backward pass, somebody going between their legs to something they're not really seeing really well, they're snapping somebody standing back there. That seems like a pretty dangerous operation. And why would you do that so often on a muddy field? I understand if you're deep in your own territory. Wouldn't it be safer to try to run and maybe get some yardage and punt on fourth down? Yeah.
And I suspect that they weren't long snapping the way we do today. You know, so you know, back then, a lot of times, even, you know, a lot of times, teams punted in much more of a, a quick kick kind of style. So they might snap back to the tailback and a wing, single-wing formation.
And, you know, just the nature of it was that people had such trouble. The players had so much trouble getting footing that they couldn't, you know, typically they weren't able to rush the punter very effectively. Now, you know, obviously, they did once, once in the game, because they blocked that punt, you know, and it ended up, you know, in safety, but there, there weren't a bunch of punt blocks, you know, despite all the punts.
So, and, you know, just like you see it every once in a while with kids in like youth football, if you don't have a decent long snapper, you know, what people used to do, and even before really long snapping developed, they'd, they'd snap the ball to the quarterback and then he'd it back to the, to the punter or to the fullback at the time. So, you know, they may have had to resort to that too, but yeah, I mean, I just, they just were having so much trouble moving the ball at all, you know, run, you know, they were just, they were more scared of fumbling the ball, mishandling it, fumbling it in their own backfield. So they were just trying to get any kind of field position they could because they'd pump the thing, and it would just plop and stay there.
It's not like it rolled just wherever it landed. I can imagine. Wow.
That is something. And I guess that's something to really think about, you know, 77 times you had a couple of really tired punters. I'm sure they had to soak their legs in ice or something that evening after the game.
Wow. Well, Tim, great stuff, as always. And, you know, we really appreciate these tidbits that you do each and every evening.
Maybe you could share it with the folks so they can enjoy your tidbits. So they're getting the action every single night at seven. Yeah.
You can just go to footballarchaeology.com. You can subscribe there. And if you subscribe, you get an email in your inbox every night at seven o'clock Eastern. And then, you know, read them at your leisure, or you can follow me on Twitter, on threads, or on the Substack app.
But basically the way Twitter is working nowadays, at least for me, you know, even if you follow me on Twitter, you're probably not going to see it. So if you want to see this stuff, you're better off subscribing. All right.
Well, Tim Brown, we thank you very much for sharing with us again. And we will talk to you again next Tuesday about another great historical football attribute. Very good.
Look forward to it. Thanks, Darin.
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8 Legendary Coaches Who Left a Mark on American Football
Coaching plays a crucial role in the success and development of American football teams. The strategies, leadership, and vision of a coach can make a significant difference on and off the field.
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In this list, let's name eight legendary coaches who have left an indelible mark on the sport. They were selected based on their influence, remarkable achievements, and lasting legacy in football.
-Vince Lombardi
Whether you enjoy sports" target="bbcode">sports betting in New Zealand, Australia, Spain, Canada, or the United States, among other large football betting markets, Lombardi is probably a name you know. Vince Lombardi was born in Brooklyn, New York, and began his football career as an assistant coach at Fordham University. He later served as an assistant with the New York Giants before becoming the head coach of the Green Bay Packers in 1959. Under Lombardi's leadership, the Packers won five NFL Championships and the first two Super Bowls.
Lombardi is credited with developing modern football strategies, focusing on discipline, execution, and motivational techniques. His famous quote, "Winning isn't everything; it's the only thing," epitomises his competitive spirit.
Lombardi's legacy is profound. He set the standard for coaching excellence and leadership. The NFL honoured him by naming the Super Bowl trophy after him, ensuring his impact on the game endures forever.
-Bill Belichick
Bill Belichick began his coaching career with several assistant roles, including a stint with the New York Giants, where he helped lead the team to two Super Bowl victories. His rise to prominence started when he became the head coach of the New England Patriots in 2000.
Under Belichick's leadership, the Patriots secured six Super Bowls and established themselves as one of the most powerful teams in NFL history. His coaching philosophy emphasises preparation, adaptability, and situational awareness.
Belichick is known for his innovative strategies, such as utilising versatile players and adjusting game plans to exploit opponents' weaknesses. His influence on football is immense, inspiring current and future generations of coaches to adopt a meticulous and strategic approach to the game.
-Don Shula
Don Shula's coaching career spanned over three decades, making him one of the most respected figures in NFL history. He is most popular for his time with the Miami Dolphins, where he guided the team to two Super Bowl victories and an unmatched perfect season in 1972.
Shula was renowned for his adaptable strategies and exceptional game management skills. His ability to adjust his coaching style to fit his players' strengths set him apart from his peers.
Shula's long-term impact on the sport is undeniable. His record-breaking achievements contributed significantly to football culture and inspired countless coaches and players.
-Paul "Bear" Bryant
Paul "Bear" Bryant is a legendary figure in college football, celebrated for his remarkable career and numerous achievements. He is best known for his tenure at the University of Alabama, where he transformed the football program into a powerhouse.
Bryant led the Crimson Tide to six national championships and 13 SEC titles, cementing his status as one of the greatest college football coaches ever. His success was built on a foundation of discipline, hard work, and innovative coaching techniques.
Beyond his impressive win record, Bryant's influence extended to player development, where he moulded young athletes into successful professionals. His lasting legacy is evident in both college and professional football, with many of his former players and assistants going on to achieve great success in their careers.
-Tom Landry
Tom Landry's journey to becoming a legendary coach began with his early life in Mission, Texas, where he developed a passion for football. After playing college and professional football, he transitioned into coaching, eventually becoming the head coach of the Dallas Cowboys in 1960.
Landry's tenure with the Cowboys was iconic, spanning 29 years and resulting in two Super Bowl victories, five NFC championships, and 20 consecutive winning seasons. He is credited with numerous innovations in defensive schemes, including the "Flex Defense," which revolutionised how teams approached defence.
Known for his calm demeanour and meticulous planning, Landry's influence extended beyond his own team. His methods in team management and game preparation set new standards in the NFL.
-Bill Walsh
Bill Walsh's background in football began as a player and assistant coach before he found his calling as a head coach. His career milestones include transforming the San Francisco 49ers into a dominant force in the NFL during the 1980s.
Under Walsh's leadership, the 49ers secured three Super Bowl titles, establishing a dynasty known for its innovative offensive strategies. He is best remembered for creating and popularising the West Coast offence, emphasising short, precise passes to control the game and exploit defensive weaknesses.
Walsh's impact on offensive strategies reshaped how football was played, influencing countless coaches and teams. Beyond his on-field success, Walsh was passionate about coaching education programs, mentoring many future NFL head coaches and contributing to the professional development of the sport.
-Joe Gibbs
Joe Gibbs' journey to becoming an NFL coach started with various assistant coaching roles before he took the helm of the Washington Redskins in 1981. His tenure with the Redskins was marked by remarkable achievements, including three Super Bowl victories, each with a different starting quarterback.
sportsbusinessjournal.com/Journal/Issues/2022/04/11/Champions/Joe-Gibbs.aspx" target="bbcode">Gibbs was known for his unique coaching style, adaptability, and meticulous game planning. He could adjust his strategies to fit his players’ strengths, which set him apart from many of his contemporaries.
His contributions to the game's evolution are significant, particularly in offensive innovation. Even after retiring from coaching, Gibbs continued to influence the sport through his insights and leadership in other ventures, leaving an enduring legacy on and off the field.
-George Halas
George Halas, known as "Papa Bear," was a founding figure of the Chicago Bears and a key contributor to the early NFL. His coaching career spanned over four decades, and he led the Bears to six NFL championships.
Halas played a pivotal role in shaping the modern NFL, from establishing league rules to promoting professional football nationwide. His innovative ideas, such as the T-formation offence, revolutionised the game.
His enduring legacy as a pioneer in football coaching is reflected in the Bears' continued success and the many advancements in the sport he helped bring about.
-Wrapping Up
The legacies of these legendary coaches have fundamentally shaped football, setting standards for strategy, leadership, and innovation. Their impact is evident in the modern game’s tactics and coaching methodologies. For those passionate about football, exploring their stories provides valuable insights into the sport's history and evolution. Their contributions continue to influence how the game is played and coached today, offering lessons that resonate far beyond the field.
Leah Hetteberg Unsplash| AD
In this list, let's name eight legendary coaches who have left an indelible mark on the sport. They were selected based on their influence, remarkable achievements, and lasting legacy in football.
-Vince Lombardi
Whether you enjoy sports" target="bbcode">sports betting in New Zealand, Australia, Spain, Canada, or the United States, among other large football betting markets, Lombardi is probably a name you know. Vince Lombardi was born in Brooklyn, New York, and began his football career as an assistant coach at Fordham University. He later served as an assistant with the New York Giants before becoming the head coach of the Green Bay Packers in 1959. Under Lombardi's leadership, the Packers won five NFL Championships and the first two Super Bowls.
Lombardi is credited with developing modern football strategies, focusing on discipline, execution, and motivational techniques. His famous quote, "Winning isn't everything; it's the only thing," epitomises his competitive spirit.
Lombardi's legacy is profound. He set the standard for coaching excellence and leadership. The NFL honoured him by naming the Super Bowl trophy after him, ensuring his impact on the game endures forever.
-Bill Belichick
Bill Belichick began his coaching career with several assistant roles, including a stint with the New York Giants, where he helped lead the team to two Super Bowl victories. His rise to prominence started when he became the head coach of the New England Patriots in 2000.
Under Belichick's leadership, the Patriots secured six Super Bowls and established themselves as one of the most powerful teams in NFL history. His coaching philosophy emphasises preparation, adaptability, and situational awareness.
Belichick is known for his innovative strategies, such as utilising versatile players and adjusting game plans to exploit opponents' weaknesses. His influence on football is immense, inspiring current and future generations of coaches to adopt a meticulous and strategic approach to the game.
-Don Shula
Don Shula's coaching career spanned over three decades, making him one of the most respected figures in NFL history. He is most popular for his time with the Miami Dolphins, where he guided the team to two Super Bowl victories and an unmatched perfect season in 1972.
Shula was renowned for his adaptable strategies and exceptional game management skills. His ability to adjust his coaching style to fit his players' strengths set him apart from his peers.
Shula's long-term impact on the sport is undeniable. His record-breaking achievements contributed significantly to football culture and inspired countless coaches and players.
-Paul "Bear" Bryant
Paul "Bear" Bryant is a legendary figure in college football, celebrated for his remarkable career and numerous achievements. He is best known for his tenure at the University of Alabama, where he transformed the football program into a powerhouse.
Bryant led the Crimson Tide to six national championships and 13 SEC titles, cementing his status as one of the greatest college football coaches ever. His success was built on a foundation of discipline, hard work, and innovative coaching techniques.
Beyond his impressive win record, Bryant's influence extended to player development, where he moulded young athletes into successful professionals. His lasting legacy is evident in both college and professional football, with many of his former players and assistants going on to achieve great success in their careers.
-Tom Landry
Tom Landry's journey to becoming a legendary coach began with his early life in Mission, Texas, where he developed a passion for football. After playing college and professional football, he transitioned into coaching, eventually becoming the head coach of the Dallas Cowboys in 1960.
Landry's tenure with the Cowboys was iconic, spanning 29 years and resulting in two Super Bowl victories, five NFC championships, and 20 consecutive winning seasons. He is credited with numerous innovations in defensive schemes, including the "Flex Defense," which revolutionised how teams approached defence.
Known for his calm demeanour and meticulous planning, Landry's influence extended beyond his own team. His methods in team management and game preparation set new standards in the NFL.
-Bill Walsh
Bill Walsh's background in football began as a player and assistant coach before he found his calling as a head coach. His career milestones include transforming the San Francisco 49ers into a dominant force in the NFL during the 1980s.
Under Walsh's leadership, the 49ers secured three Super Bowl titles, establishing a dynasty known for its innovative offensive strategies. He is best remembered for creating and popularising the West Coast offence, emphasising short, precise passes to control the game and exploit defensive weaknesses.
Walsh's impact on offensive strategies reshaped how football was played, influencing countless coaches and teams. Beyond his on-field success, Walsh was passionate about coaching education programs, mentoring many future NFL head coaches and contributing to the professional development of the sport.
-Joe Gibbs
Joe Gibbs' journey to becoming an NFL coach started with various assistant coaching roles before he took the helm of the Washington Redskins in 1981. His tenure with the Redskins was marked by remarkable achievements, including three Super Bowl victories, each with a different starting quarterback.
sportsbusinessjournal.com/Journal/Issues/2022/04/11/Champions/Joe-Gibbs.aspx" target="bbcode">Gibbs was known for his unique coaching style, adaptability, and meticulous game planning. He could adjust his strategies to fit his players’ strengths, which set him apart from many of his contemporaries.
His contributions to the game's evolution are significant, particularly in offensive innovation. Even after retiring from coaching, Gibbs continued to influence the sport through his insights and leadership in other ventures, leaving an enduring legacy on and off the field.
-George Halas
George Halas, known as "Papa Bear," was a founding figure of the Chicago Bears and a key contributor to the early NFL. His coaching career spanned over four decades, and he led the Bears to six NFL championships.
Halas played a pivotal role in shaping the modern NFL, from establishing league rules to promoting professional football nationwide. His innovative ideas, such as the T-formation offence, revolutionised the game.
His enduring legacy as a pioneer in football coaching is reflected in the Bears' continued success and the many advancements in the sport he helped bring about.
-Wrapping Up
The legacies of these legendary coaches have fundamentally shaped football, setting standards for strategy, leadership, and innovation. Their impact is evident in the modern game’s tactics and coaching methodologies. For those passionate about football, exploring their stories provides valuable insights into the sport's history and evolution. Their contributions continue to influence how the game is played and coached today, offering lessons that resonate far beyond the field.
Goal Post Down -The Case Of The Missing Goal Posts
Football’s origin story is that Princeton and Rutgers played the first game in 1869. That game involved 25 players per side kicking and batting a round ball with the ultimate aim of kicking the ball between two posts at either end of a field at Rutgers. The team met again a week later on a Princeton field with goals at either end. — www.footballarchaeology.com
Football Archaeology's Timothy Brown shares the story of an interesting field equipment predicament that occurred in a 1974 college football game.
It is an odd case of game management versus fandom and how the outcome of a game was at stake.
-Transcribed Conversation with Timothy Brown on the Missing Goal Post
Hello, my football friends; this is Darin Hayes of PigskinDispatch.com. Welcome once again to The Pig Pen, your portal for positive football history, and welcome to another Tuesday where we get to go to footballarchaeology.com's Timothy P. Brown, pick his brain a little bit, and talk about one of his recent tidbits. Tim, welcome back to The Pig Pen.
Hey, thanks, Darin. Looking forward to talking again and talking about something that goes missing. Yeah, and we've been missing you since last week, but that's not the missing that we're going to be talking about today.
You're going to talk about a recent tidbit you titled, The Case of the Missing Goalposts.
It sounds like a Sherlock Holmes theater here for footballarchaeology.com. I can get that in my mouth, right?
Well, I was a Hardy Boys guy as a kid, so everything was The Case of the Treasure Chest. I think Nancy drew, too, but I wasn't into Nancy. Yeah, so this one, The Case of the Missing Goalposts, goes back to the old, I should say, Princeton and Rutgers.
They played the first intercollegiate soccer games in 1869. Note, I did say soccer there, but then eventually they started playing football, gridiron football. They're very close together geographically, and so they played 60-some times, whatever it was, over the years.
Princeton totally dominated the match or the matchups, but starting in the 60s, Rutgers started winning a lot. Then, they became the dominant team. It's somewhere along the lines in the 60s that, back then, there were a lot of... Nowadays, hardly anybody tears down the goalposts because they used to... Number one, they used to be constructed of primary wood, so they're easier to tear down.
We didn't have the same level of security, and there were a lot of those. The other thing was that a little bit later on, when goalposts got torn down, a couple of people got injured, and then they sued the universities and so on. Anyway, it's easier to get into Fort Knox now than it is to tear down some goalposts.
They just made it nearly impossible to tear down a goalpost. Back in the 60s, it was very common, 50s as well. People just tore them down all the time.
What happened in the Princeton and Rutgers series was that no matter where the game was being played, the winning team and their fans tore down the goalposts. Then, there were a couple of occasions where they tore them down before the game was over. That happened in 1974 when Rutgers scored a touchdown earlier in the game.
They didn't make the extra points. They were leading six nothing with three and a half minutes left in the fourth quarter. Princeton gets the ball and they start driving.
They drive all the way down. Partly during the time that they're driving, the Rutgers fans come onto the field and tear down the goalposts at both ends. Now the field doesn't have goalposts.
With 22 seconds left, Princeton scores. It's 6-6. They've got an opportunity to go for the extra point or the two-point conversion.
They want to go for the extra point, but there's no goalposts to kick towards. The officiating crew gets together, and then they bring the coaches in, and they're having a conversation. The Princeton AD tells the referee that they've got a spare goalpost sitting on the stands, and they can have it up in five minutes.
Somehow, that got lost in the translation, and the referee didn't hear that. He basically thought they could start building a new goalpost in five minutes. They start looking at whether they should go over to a practice facility outside the stadium. The referee didn't want to go there because they were already having control issues.
He's like, I don't even know how far away this practice facility is. Then, Princeton volunteered their cheerleaders, had one cheerleader mount and stand on the shoulders of another cheerleader, and held the crossbar in place. Then they'd attempt to kick.
I'm just imagining an errant kick, like the double doink, and taking a cheerleader out. Yeah, it's a risk to the profession. Ultimately, the ref just knows, Princeton, it's on your home field.
You're responsible for field security. It doesn't matter who tore the things down. No goalposts, you have to go for two.
So Princeton goes for two. They don't make it. So the game ends in a 6-6 tie.
But basically, after that, that game is 74. In 75, the NCAA had a requirement that facilities had to have a spare set of goalposts that could be put up rapidly if they fell down during the game. But again, it was this kind of stuff that kind of encouraged the adoption of the, some people call it the fork of a slingshot style, single post goalpost and then fortified with depleted uranium or something.
They make those things, titanium, whatever it is. Those things do not come down. Except for that Fanville commercial and Dr. Pepper commercial a couple of years ago, where Brian Bosworth is the cop, and he's looking for the missing goalposts.
One guy has a satellite dish up on it, and the other one across the street is a swing set, and he can't find the slingshot goalpost. Well, I know that a lot of people are fans of the Dr. Pepper commercials. I don't count in that group.
I just said it because I had the reference of the missing goalpost. That's actually pretty funny when you watch it. Kind of clever.
Yeah. Actually, some of them are pretty good. Yeah.
But that's just something that sounds so foreign. It sounds like something maybe would happen in 1911, but in 1974, this is modern-era football and a goalpost for two major colleges playing each other. That's just crazy.
It's unbelievable that within 50 years ago. Yeah. It's like anything else.
Until something happens, you don't make the rules, or you don't make the investment. It's just easier. Back then it was kind of like, well, yeah, the kids are going to tear them down.
So let's make them cheap because they're going to tear them down anyway. And then somebody went the other direction and said, I'm going to build me a fine goalpost. So that's what we have today.
Yeah. The next thing you know, we're going to have bands out on the field before the game's over. Oh wait, that did happen, too.
Yeah. Yeah. Oh boy.
Tim, that is some great stuff. And we always enjoy your tidbits each and every day for stories just like this and learn something new from 50 years ago or a hundred and some years ago. And we really appreciate that.
And there are folks out there who would like to get in on the action, too, and read your tidbits each and every day. Maybe you could give them some information to share. Sure.
The best way to get to the tidbits is to go to www.footballarchaeology.com and subscribe. You can subscribe for free, and then you'll get an email every day with that day's story. You can also get the Substack app or follow Football Archaeology.
You can also follow me on threads or on Twitter. And I post on both of those locations every day. All right.
Well, Timothy P. Brown, footballarchaeology.com. We really appreciate you. And we will talk to you again next Tuesday.
Very good.Thank you, sir.
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NFL Picks and Predictions
The anticipation and excitement surrounding the NFL season are palpable, with fans and analysts alike making predictions and assessing team prospects.
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The league's ever-changing landscape makes each season a unique narrative filled with unexpected twists and underdog stories.
-NFC East: A Duel of Giants and Eagles
In the NFC East, the spotlight shines on the Philadelphia Eagles and the Dallas Cowboys, setting the stage for a rivalry that promises to captivate audiences.
The Eagles, coming off a season that nearly saw them crowned Super Bowl champions, face the challenge of replicating their success amidst a tougher schedule and key personnel losses. Analysts predict a more modest season for Philadelphia, setting their win total at an ambitious 11.5.
The difficulty in surpassing this threshold stems from their rigorous upcoming fixtures and the departure of vital coordinators and players. The Dallas Cowboys, on the other hand, face their own set of challenges but are positioned to potentially dethrone the Eagles, indicating a highly competitive divisional race.
-AFC South: Jaguars Lead the Charge
The Jacksonville Jaguars are expected to successfully defend their AFC South title. Under Trevor Lawrence and Doug Pederson's guidance, the team is expected to build on last season’s success.
The Jaguars’ enhanced roster, featuring key additions like Calvin Ridley and Anton Harrison, sets them up for a potentially explosive season. Predictions favor them exceeding their win total from the previous year.
-NFL Awards: Players to Watch
The NFL awards predictions highlight players expected to leave a significant mark this season. Joe Burrow of the Cincinnati Bengals is a strong contender for the Most Valuable Player, thanks to his exceptional skill set and the talent surrounding him.
With his dynamic playmaking ability, San Francisco 49ers’ Christian McCaffrey is a favorite for the Offensive Player of the Year.
The Defensive Player of the Year could see Dallas Cowboys’ Micah Parsons claim the title if he continues his trajectory of dominance. For rookies, Bijan Robinson of the Atlanta Falcons stands out as a potential Offensive Rookie of the Year.
At the same time, Will Anderson Jr. from the Houston Texans could emerge as the Defensive Rookie of the Year, reflecting the impact of new talents on the league.
-The Battle for Super Bowl 59: A Look at the Favorites
As the NFL season gears up, the race for Super Bowl 59 intensifies, with several teams emerging as frontrunners. The betting platforms have released odds for the tournament, and sportshandle.com/betmgm/" target="bbcode">fans can use top promotions, like the BetMGM bonus code.
San Francisco 49ers
With odds of +550, the San Francisco 49ers are positioned as the top contender from the NFC to capture the Super Bowl. Their journey last season, culminating in a narrow Super Bowl 58 defeat, showcased their resilience and tactical acumen.
With a record of 12-5, the 49ers clinched the NFC West and secured the conference’s top seed, illustrating their prowess and setting high expectations for the forthcoming season.
Kansas City Chiefs
Close behind with odds of +650, the Kansas City Chiefs continue to dominate discussions as the team to beat in the AFC. Their recent history shows their consistency and excellence, as they have secured the Super Bowl title twice in the past three seasons.
Last year, they extended their reign over the AFC West, marking their eighth consecutive title, a streak that speaks volumes about their enduring dominance.
Baltimore Ravens
The Baltimore Ravens, with odds of +1000, are among the elite contenders. They are buoyed by Lamar Jackson's electrifying performances and their formidable regular-season record of 13-4 last year.
Despite falling short in the AFC Championship game against the Chiefs, their MVP-awarded quarterback and the team’s overall dynamics have them poised as a serious threat in the AFC hierarchy.
Buffalo Bills
The Buffalo Bills, with odds of +1200, remain steadfast in their quest to conquer the AFC. Their consistent playoff appearances and journey to the divisional round last season underscore a team on the brink of breakthrough success.
The Bills' determination to surpass perennial contenders and their ambition to reach the Super Bowl spotlight their potential and drive.
Detroit Lions
The Detroit Lions, with odds of +1300, surprised many last season by winning the NFC North and advancing deep into the playoffs. Despite being underdogs, their dramatic NFC title game performance against the 49ers showcased a team with considerable upside and the spirit to challenge the NFC's best.
Cincinnati Bengals
Finally, with odds of +1500, the Cincinnati Bengals enter the season as one of the teams to watch. Despite facing challenges, including a significant injury to Joe Burrow, their competitive spirit never waned. With Burrow expected to return in top form, the Bengals are viewed as a formidable force in the AFC, capable of making a deep playoff run.
-Summary
As the NFL season unfolds, the analysis, predictions, and football's sheer unpredictability culminate in an electrifying atmosphere that grips fans worldwide. From the NFC East's intense rivalries to the AFC South's strategic battles, this season's narrative promises to be rich with tactical genius and underdog victories.
The spotlight on key players poised for awards underscores the talent that continues to evolve and shape the league's future. With the odds set and the favorites outlined for Super Bowl 59, the stage is set for a showdown that will etch itself into NFL history.
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The league's ever-changing landscape makes each season a unique narrative filled with unexpected twists and underdog stories.
-NFC East: A Duel of Giants and Eagles
In the NFC East, the spotlight shines on the Philadelphia Eagles and the Dallas Cowboys, setting the stage for a rivalry that promises to captivate audiences.
The Eagles, coming off a season that nearly saw them crowned Super Bowl champions, face the challenge of replicating their success amidst a tougher schedule and key personnel losses. Analysts predict a more modest season for Philadelphia, setting their win total at an ambitious 11.5.
The difficulty in surpassing this threshold stems from their rigorous upcoming fixtures and the departure of vital coordinators and players. The Dallas Cowboys, on the other hand, face their own set of challenges but are positioned to potentially dethrone the Eagles, indicating a highly competitive divisional race.
-AFC South: Jaguars Lead the Charge
The Jacksonville Jaguars are expected to successfully defend their AFC South title. Under Trevor Lawrence and Doug Pederson's guidance, the team is expected to build on last season’s success.
The Jaguars’ enhanced roster, featuring key additions like Calvin Ridley and Anton Harrison, sets them up for a potentially explosive season. Predictions favor them exceeding their win total from the previous year.
-NFL Awards: Players to Watch
The NFL awards predictions highlight players expected to leave a significant mark this season. Joe Burrow of the Cincinnati Bengals is a strong contender for the Most Valuable Player, thanks to his exceptional skill set and the talent surrounding him.
With his dynamic playmaking ability, San Francisco 49ers’ Christian McCaffrey is a favorite for the Offensive Player of the Year.
The Defensive Player of the Year could see Dallas Cowboys’ Micah Parsons claim the title if he continues his trajectory of dominance. For rookies, Bijan Robinson of the Atlanta Falcons stands out as a potential Offensive Rookie of the Year.
At the same time, Will Anderson Jr. from the Houston Texans could emerge as the Defensive Rookie of the Year, reflecting the impact of new talents on the league.
-The Battle for Super Bowl 59: A Look at the Favorites
As the NFL season gears up, the race for Super Bowl 59 intensifies, with several teams emerging as frontrunners. The betting platforms have released odds for the tournament, and sportshandle.com/betmgm/" target="bbcode">fans can use top promotions, like the BetMGM bonus code.
San Francisco 49ers
With odds of +550, the San Francisco 49ers are positioned as the top contender from the NFC to capture the Super Bowl. Their journey last season, culminating in a narrow Super Bowl 58 defeat, showcased their resilience and tactical acumen.
With a record of 12-5, the 49ers clinched the NFC West and secured the conference’s top seed, illustrating their prowess and setting high expectations for the forthcoming season.
Kansas City Chiefs
Close behind with odds of +650, the Kansas City Chiefs continue to dominate discussions as the team to beat in the AFC. Their recent history shows their consistency and excellence, as they have secured the Super Bowl title twice in the past three seasons.
Last year, they extended their reign over the AFC West, marking their eighth consecutive title, a streak that speaks volumes about their enduring dominance.
Baltimore Ravens
The Baltimore Ravens, with odds of +1000, are among the elite contenders. They are buoyed by Lamar Jackson's electrifying performances and their formidable regular-season record of 13-4 last year.
Despite falling short in the AFC Championship game against the Chiefs, their MVP-awarded quarterback and the team’s overall dynamics have them poised as a serious threat in the AFC hierarchy.
Buffalo Bills
The Buffalo Bills, with odds of +1200, remain steadfast in their quest to conquer the AFC. Their consistent playoff appearances and journey to the divisional round last season underscore a team on the brink of breakthrough success.
The Bills' determination to surpass perennial contenders and their ambition to reach the Super Bowl spotlight their potential and drive.
Detroit Lions
The Detroit Lions, with odds of +1300, surprised many last season by winning the NFC North and advancing deep into the playoffs. Despite being underdogs, their dramatic NFC title game performance against the 49ers showcased a team with considerable upside and the spirit to challenge the NFC's best.
Cincinnati Bengals
Finally, with odds of +1500, the Cincinnati Bengals enter the season as one of the teams to watch. Despite facing challenges, including a significant injury to Joe Burrow, their competitive spirit never waned. With Burrow expected to return in top form, the Bengals are viewed as a formidable force in the AFC, capable of making a deep playoff run.
-Summary
As the NFL season unfolds, the analysis, predictions, and football's sheer unpredictability culminate in an electrifying atmosphere that grips fans worldwide. From the NFC East's intense rivalries to the AFC South's strategic battles, this season's narrative promises to be rich with tactical genius and underdog victories.
The spotlight on key players poised for awards underscores the talent that continues to evolve and shape the league's future. With the odds set and the favorites outlined for Super Bowl 59, the stage is set for a showdown that will etch itself into NFL history.
A Journey Through American Football History
American football, a game deeply ingrained in the cultural fabric of the United States, has evolved significantly since its inception. From its humble beginnings in the late 19th century to becoming the nation's most beloved sport, football has witnessed changes that have not only shaped the game but also the very society that cherishes it.
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Introduction
This article delves into the rich history of American football, exploring key milestones that have marked its evolution and its impact on fans and players alike. Join us as we take a journey through the gridiron's past, understanding the transformations that have made the sport what it is today.
The Birth of American Football
The origins of American football can be traced back to the late 1800s, a period that saw the transformation of rugby and soccer into a new, distinct sport. It was Walter Camp, known as the "Father of American Football," who played a pivotal role in shaping the early rules that distinguished American football from its predecessors.
The introduction of the line of scrimmage, the concept of downs, and the scoring system were revolutionary changes that laid the foundation for modern football. These early days were characterized by a rudimentary form of play, far removed from the structured and strategic game we see today, yet they were crucial in setting the stage for the sport's future development.
The NFL's Formative Years
As the sport gained popularity, the need for a formal organization became evident, leading to the establishment of the National Football League (NFL) in 1920. Initially comprising just 14 teams, the NFL struggled with challenges such as player recruitment, financial instability, and lack of public interest. However, it gradually overcame these obstacles, thanks in part to strategic decisions around sportsbook.fanduel.com/teams/nfl/standings" target="bbcode">NFL standings and the NFL Draft system, which was implemented to maintain competitive balance among teams.
This era also saw the emergence of stars who would become legends, individuals whose prowess on the field began drawing crowds and shaping the future of the league.
The Golden Age of American Football
The post-World War II era marked a golden age for the sport, as American football witnessed unprecedented growth in popularity. Technological advancements, such as the introduction of television broadcasts, brought the game into the homes of millions, creating a nationwide fanbase. Additionally, quarterbacks like Johnny Unitas and Joe Namath helped take the game from a run-dominated sport to a more balanced one.
This period also saw the rise of the Super Bowl in the late 1960s, an annual championship game that quickly became a cultural phenomenon. The NFL's savvy marketing strategies, coupled with the electrifying performances of its athletes, solidified football's place as a central pillar of American entertainment.
Modern Innovations and the Future of Football
In recent years, American football has continued to evolve, embracing technological innovations and addressing challenges such as player safety and diversity. The use of instant replay, advances in protective gear, and the implementation of strict concussion protocols reflect the league's commitment to safeguarding its players.
Moreover, initiatives aimed at promoting diversity and inclusion within the sport signal a progressive shift in the NFL's approach to social issues. As the league looks to the future, it remains dedicated to enhancing the game's integrity, competitiveness, and appeal to fans around the world.
Conclusion
The history of American football is a testament to the sport's resilience, adaptability, and enduring appeal. From its early days on college campuses to its current status as a professional sporting behemoth, football has captivated the hearts of Americans across generations. The evolution of the gridiron mirrors broader societal changes, reflecting the nation's struggles, triumphs, and cultural shifts.
As we look back on the journey of American football, it's clear that the game is more than just a sport; it's a piece of American history, a narrative of progress and passion that continues to unfold. As fans, players, and stewards of the game, we carry forward the legacy of those who have shaped its past, eager to see how the story of American football will evolve in the years to come.
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Introduction
This article delves into the rich history of American football, exploring key milestones that have marked its evolution and its impact on fans and players alike. Join us as we take a journey through the gridiron's past, understanding the transformations that have made the sport what it is today.
The Birth of American Football
The origins of American football can be traced back to the late 1800s, a period that saw the transformation of rugby and soccer into a new, distinct sport. It was Walter Camp, known as the "Father of American Football," who played a pivotal role in shaping the early rules that distinguished American football from its predecessors.
The introduction of the line of scrimmage, the concept of downs, and the scoring system were revolutionary changes that laid the foundation for modern football. These early days were characterized by a rudimentary form of play, far removed from the structured and strategic game we see today, yet they were crucial in setting the stage for the sport's future development.
The NFL's Formative Years
As the sport gained popularity, the need for a formal organization became evident, leading to the establishment of the National Football League (NFL) in 1920. Initially comprising just 14 teams, the NFL struggled with challenges such as player recruitment, financial instability, and lack of public interest. However, it gradually overcame these obstacles, thanks in part to strategic decisions around sportsbook.fanduel.com/teams/nfl/standings" target="bbcode">NFL standings and the NFL Draft system, which was implemented to maintain competitive balance among teams.
This era also saw the emergence of stars who would become legends, individuals whose prowess on the field began drawing crowds and shaping the future of the league.
The Golden Age of American Football
The post-World War II era marked a golden age for the sport, as American football witnessed unprecedented growth in popularity. Technological advancements, such as the introduction of television broadcasts, brought the game into the homes of millions, creating a nationwide fanbase. Additionally, quarterbacks like Johnny Unitas and Joe Namath helped take the game from a run-dominated sport to a more balanced one.
This period also saw the rise of the Super Bowl in the late 1960s, an annual championship game that quickly became a cultural phenomenon. The NFL's savvy marketing strategies, coupled with the electrifying performances of its athletes, solidified football's place as a central pillar of American entertainment.
Modern Innovations and the Future of Football
In recent years, American football has continued to evolve, embracing technological innovations and addressing challenges such as player safety and diversity. The use of instant replay, advances in protective gear, and the implementation of strict concussion protocols reflect the league's commitment to safeguarding its players.
Moreover, initiatives aimed at promoting diversity and inclusion within the sport signal a progressive shift in the NFL's approach to social issues. As the league looks to the future, it remains dedicated to enhancing the game's integrity, competitiveness, and appeal to fans around the world.
Conclusion
The history of American football is a testament to the sport's resilience, adaptability, and enduring appeal. From its early days on college campuses to its current status as a professional sporting behemoth, football has captivated the hearts of Americans across generations. The evolution of the gridiron mirrors broader societal changes, reflecting the nation's struggles, triumphs, and cultural shifts.
As we look back on the journey of American football, it's clear that the game is more than just a sport; it's a piece of American history, a narrative of progress and passion that continues to unfold. As fans, players, and stewards of the game, we carry forward the legacy of those who have shaped its past, eager to see how the story of American football will evolve in the years to come.
Touchdowns | A Closer Look at the NFL's All-Time Top Career Passing Leaders
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The National Football League (NFL) is a stage for the extraordinary, a field where legends are born and records are made to be broken. Among the many metrics that define a quarterback's legacy, passing touchdowns stand out as a paramount indicator of skill, consistency, and leadership. Let's delve into the careers of the top five quarterbacks who have etched their names in the annals of NFL history through their unparalleled ability to find the end zone through the air.
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Tom Brady: The Unquestionable G.O.A.T.
At the pinnacle of the passing touchdowns leaderboard is Tom Brady, a name synonymous with championships, excellence, and achievements. Amassing a staggering 649 touchdowns over 335 games, Brady's career spanned more than two decades, primarily with the New England Patriots, before concluding with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. His longevity, coupled with an unmatched competitive spirit, has not only set a high bar but also redefined what is possible for NFL players.
Drew Brees: Precision Personified
Drew Brees, who ranks second, is a maestro of accuracy and decision-making. Accumulating 571 touchdowns in 287 games, Brees represented the epitome of efficiency and reliability. His tenure with the New Orleans Saints, following a formative stint with the San Diego Chargers, was marked by a slew of records and memorable moments, including a Super Bowl victory, further cementing his legacy as one of the game's finest quarterbacks.
Peyton Manning: The Sheriff
The third spot is occupied by Peyton Manning, whose football acumen and leadership were unparalleled. Manning's career, divided between the Indianapolis Colts and the Denver Broncos, was characterized by his 539 touchdowns and an innate ability to dissect defenses like no other. A true student of the game, Manning's contributions extended beyond the field, influencing countless peers and successors.
Brett Favre: The Iron Man
Brett Favre, known for his durability and gunslinger mentality, is No. 4 on the all-time passing touchdowns list. Favre's career, which included stints with several sportsbook.fanduel.com/teams/nfl/teams" target="bbcode">NFL teams, most notably the Green Bay Packers, and his 508 touchdowns were a testament to his fearlessness and penchant for making the impossible seem routine. His iron-man streak and competitive nature left an indelible mark on the NFL.
Aaron Rodgers: The Magician
Rounding out the top five is Aaron Rodgers, whose career is a blend of precision, mobility, and moments of sheer magic. With 475 touchdowns and counting, Rodgers has spent the majority of his career with the Green Bay Packers, with a recent move to the New York Jets. His ability to perform in clutch situations and his innovative play have solidified his status as one of the best quarterbacks of his era.
Conclusion
The narratives of Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Peyton Manning, Brett Favre, and Aaron Rodgers are interwoven with the fabric of NFL history. Their contributions transcend mere statistics, embodying the spirit of competition, resilience, and excellence. As the NFL evolves, these quarterbacks' legacies will continue to inspire future generations, reminding us of the profound impact an individual can have on this cherished game.
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