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Charles Aaron "Bubba" Smith, a name synonymous with power and dominance, carved his legacy in professional football, college athletics, and beyond. This essay explores his journey, from his stellar college career to his professional impact and lasting contributions.
College Career Dominating the College Ranks (1964-1966):
Bubba Smith's rise to football stardom began at Michigan State University. Standing tall at 6'6" and weighing 265 pounds, he possessed a rare combination of size, strength, and athleticism. He quickly established himself as a defensive force, earning All-American honors twice (1965 and 1966). His performance in the 1966 "Game of the Century" against Notre Dame, a 10-10 tie, remains etched in college football lore. Smith's exceptional play helped his team and solidified his reputation as a generational talent.
Road to the Pro Game A Forceful Presence in the NFL (1967-1976):
The Baltimore Colts selected Smith with the first overall pick in the 1967 NFL Draft, solidifying his status as a sought-after prospect. He quickly made his mark, earning Pro Bowl selections in 1970 and 1971. Despite playing through a challenging era for the Colts, Smith showcased his defensive prowess, contributing to two AFC Championship games.
Seeking New Challenges (1973-1976):
In 1973, Smith looked for greener pastures, joining the Oakland Raiders. While his time there was marked by injuries, he remained a dominant force, contributing to the Raiders' Super Bowl VIII appearance in 1974. His final two seasons were spent with the Houston Oilers, where he continued to be a formidable presence on the field.
Football Legacy Beyond the Gridiron:
Bubba Smith's impact extended far beyond the football field. He transitioned into a successful acting career, notably appearing in the "Police Academy" film series. He was also a vocal advocate for social justice and actively participated in charitable endeavors. His tragic death in 2011 left a void in the sports and entertainment world.
Legacy: A Titan Remembered:
Bubba Smith's legacy is multifaceted. He remains one of the most recognizable figures in Michigan State football history, his jersey number (95) being one of only six retired by the program. Despite playing in an era with fewer individual statistics, his dominance in the NFL is undeniable. Furthermore, his ventures into acting and his commitment to social justice showcase his diverse talents and positive influence.
Bubba Smith will be remembered for his physical prowess on the gridiron and his charisma, dedication, and positive contributions beyond the game. He serves as a reminder of the potential athletes have to inspire and leave a lasting impact on their chosen path and communities.
College Career Dominating the College Ranks (1964-1966):
Bubba Smith's rise to football stardom began at Michigan State University. Standing tall at 6'6" and weighing 265 pounds, he possessed a rare combination of size, strength, and athleticism. He quickly established himself as a defensive force, earning All-American honors twice (1965 and 1966). His performance in the 1966 "Game of the Century" against Notre Dame, a 10-10 tie, remains etched in college football lore. Smith's exceptional play helped his team and solidified his reputation as a generational talent.
Road to the Pro Game A Forceful Presence in the NFL (1967-1976):
The Baltimore Colts selected Smith with the first overall pick in the 1967 NFL Draft, solidifying his status as a sought-after prospect. He quickly made his mark, earning Pro Bowl selections in 1970 and 1971. Despite playing through a challenging era for the Colts, Smith showcased his defensive prowess, contributing to two AFC Championship games.
Seeking New Challenges (1973-1976):
In 1973, Smith looked for greener pastures, joining the Oakland Raiders. While his time there was marked by injuries, he remained a dominant force, contributing to the Raiders' Super Bowl VIII appearance in 1974. His final two seasons were spent with the Houston Oilers, where he continued to be a formidable presence on the field.
Football Legacy Beyond the Gridiron:
Bubba Smith's impact extended far beyond the football field. He transitioned into a successful acting career, notably appearing in the "Police Academy" film series. He was also a vocal advocate for social justice and actively participated in charitable endeavors. His tragic death in 2011 left a void in the sports and entertainment world.
Legacy: A Titan Remembered:
Bubba Smith's legacy is multifaceted. He remains one of the most recognizable figures in Michigan State football history, his jersey number (95) being one of only six retired by the program. Despite playing in an era with fewer individual statistics, his dominance in the NFL is undeniable. Furthermore, his ventures into acting and his commitment to social justice showcase his diverse talents and positive influence.
Bubba Smith will be remembered for his physical prowess on the gridiron and his charisma, dedication, and positive contributions beyond the game. He serves as a reminder of the potential athletes have to inspire and leave a lasting impact on their chosen path and communities.
Michigan Wolverines Football Traditions
Michigan Wolverines football is more than just a sport; it's a tapestry of traditions passed down through generations, binding fans together in a vibrant maize and blue brotherhood. From pre-game rituals to iconic songs, these traditions create a uniquely electric atmosphere in the Big House and beyond.
Touching the Victors Banner: Before every home game, players file past a bronze bust of Fielding H. Yost, the program's legendary coach, and touch the Victors banner hanging above. This simple act symbolizes their connection to Michigan's rich history and inspires them to carry on the Wolverines' legacy.
The 'Go Blue' Chant: Throughout the game, Michigan Stadium pulsates with the rhythmic chant of "Go Blue!" rising from over 100,000 throats. This unwavering show of support creates an intimidating atmosphere for opponents and a sense of shared fervor for fans.
Hail to the Victors: No Michigan game is complete without the iconic fight song, "Hail to the Victors." Written in 1902, this beloved anthem is sung with gusto by players, coaches, and fans alike, celebrating victories and uniting generations of Wolverines in a shared chant.
The Yost Ice Breather: On cold autumn Saturdays, a brave student volunteer takes a plunge into the icy waters of the Yost Ice Arena fountain during halftime. This tradition, dating back to the 1930s, tests the mettle of the chosen "ice breather" and fuels the crowd's energy with a dose of playful daredevilry.
The Wave: In moments of lopsided victories, the Michigan Stadium crowd erupts in a synchronized wave that rolls around the stands, a physical manifestation of the collective spirit and playful camaraderie that define the Wolverines' faithful.
These traditions are just a glimpse into the vibrant tapestry of Michigan football lore. From pre-game rituals to post-game celebrations, they bind fans together, fuel the team's spirit, and ensure that every game day in the Big House is an unforgettable experience. Whether you're a die-hard Wolverine or a casual observer, the Michigan Wolverines' traditions offer a glimpse into the soul of a program that has captivated generations with its passion, history, and enduring legacy.
Touching the Victors Banner: Before every home game, players file past a bronze bust of Fielding H. Yost, the program's legendary coach, and touch the Victors banner hanging above. This simple act symbolizes their connection to Michigan's rich history and inspires them to carry on the Wolverines' legacy.
The 'Go Blue' Chant: Throughout the game, Michigan Stadium pulsates with the rhythmic chant of "Go Blue!" rising from over 100,000 throats. This unwavering show of support creates an intimidating atmosphere for opponents and a sense of shared fervor for fans.
Hail to the Victors: No Michigan game is complete without the iconic fight song, "Hail to the Victors." Written in 1902, this beloved anthem is sung with gusto by players, coaches, and fans alike, celebrating victories and uniting generations of Wolverines in a shared chant.
The Yost Ice Breather: On cold autumn Saturdays, a brave student volunteer takes a plunge into the icy waters of the Yost Ice Arena fountain during halftime. This tradition, dating back to the 1930s, tests the mettle of the chosen "ice breather" and fuels the crowd's energy with a dose of playful daredevilry.
The Wave: In moments of lopsided victories, the Michigan Stadium crowd erupts in a synchronized wave that rolls around the stands, a physical manifestation of the collective spirit and playful camaraderie that define the Wolverines' faithful.
These traditions are just a glimpse into the vibrant tapestry of Michigan football lore. From pre-game rituals to post-game celebrations, they bind fans together, fuel the team's spirit, and ensure that every game day in the Big House is an unforgettable experience. Whether you're a die-hard Wolverine or a casual observer, the Michigan Wolverines' traditions offer a glimpse into the soul of a program that has captivated generations with its passion, history, and enduring legacy.
1915 Brown University & Their Bonus From a Big Loss
The 1915 Brown Bruins were 4-2-1 coming off a victory over Yale, helping Yale earn its first losing season in the forty or so years football had been played, so the boys from Providence had reason to be optimistic heading into their game at Harvard the following week. Led by all-everything Fritz Pollard and future Hall of Fame coach Wallace Wade, the Bruins hoped to put a scare into the Bostonians, if not return home victorious. — www.footballarchaeology.com
One of the top experts in early football rules history, Timothy P. Brown, joins us in the discussion to explain the 1915 season of Brown University. Timothy Brown's FootballArchaeology.com has a daily football factoid that he shares, which is quite interesting in a short read. They uniquely preserve football history, and we are quite happy that Tim has agreed to join us each week to review some of his Today's Tidbits. Click that link, and you can subscribe for free and receive them each evening.
This post originated from a Tidbit that Tim wrote back in 2022 titled footballarchaeology.com/p/todays-tidbit-a-bad-loss-and-a-bonus?utm_source=substack&utm_campaign=post_embed&utm_medium=web">A Bad Loss and a Bonus.
-Transcription of the 1915 Brown University Football Team with Timothy Brown
Hello, my football friends, this is Darin Hayes of PigskinDispatch.com. Welcome once again to the Pig Pen, your portal to positive football history, and it's Tuesday. And once again, we have some football archaeology with Timothy P. Brown, author and historian that has a great website of footballarchaeology.com. Tim Brown, welcome back to the Pig Pen.
Hey, Darin. Thank you for having me on again. As always, I am looking forward to chatting.
Yeah, this is a really interesting topic that we're going to talk about, the 1915 Brown Bruins, and have a very interesting story that you shared back on September 2nd, and really enjoying this one, and I think the listeners will as well.
Yeah, well, actually, you know, before chatting about that team, I think it was yesterday or the day before, an RPPC, so a real photo postcard of that 1915, of Brown's 1915 team, sold on eBay for $1,025. Wow. So, I mean, that's the, you know, it's not like I've tracked it, you know, over life, but that's, I think, the highest-priced postcard I've ever seen.
But, you know, it has Fritz Pollard on the team. So, a lot of times, especially older African Americans, you know, football stuff, you know, can command a pretty good, pretty good price. You know, it's an item that I don't think I've ever seen before until it was offered in that particular auction.
And then, you know, even for NFL people, you know, Fritz Pollard was the first African American coach in the NFL, you know, back in like 21 or, you know, something along those lines. So, you know, but just a couple of interests kind of collide, and all of a sudden, you're paying some pretty big money for a postcard. I mean, he was a tremendous player as well.
I mean, I think every team that he went to, he really brought their game up quite a bit to a different level. So, that's another reason to want to collect that, to have a legendary player. So.
Yeah. Well, you know, so the thing about that, you know, the 1915 team, you know, is that you know, Brown, I think, you know, by and large, has been kind of a second tier program, you know, and it was at the time. I mean, and I'm comparing that to Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Penn, and then, you know, probably like West Point.
Those were probably the premier, you know, year after year premier programs. But they had a long-term, you know, long-term coach at Brown, you know, during some of that period. And, you know, they have some pretty competitive teams.
And so, they actually, I think they ended up, they were, they surprisingly beat Yale that year, which they seldom did. But that was the Yale team, the 1915 Yale team. Frank Hinckley had come back to coach the team in 14.
And they kind of struggled. And then they were really struggling in 15. That was the year that the captain, Alex Wilson, fired the head coach.
So, he fired Hinckley. And he brought in Tom Shevlin to come in, you know, kind of fix things up for the last couple of games of the year. But, you know, part of his being fired was, Hinckley's being fired was that they lost to Brown.
So, you know, it was, I think that's the last instance I'm aware of where, you know, that was the last year Yale still had that, the captain runs the show, you know, kind of philosophy. But, you know, he literally fired the coach because his word was final. And then they, you know, they switched things up at, you know, the following year.
So, that was, you know, kind of an interesting element of it. And even, you know, to kind of the perspective of Percy Houghton, who was the coach at Harvard, didn't even go, or he wasn't there for the Harvard-Brown game because, you know, he thought it more important to go scout Yale, you know, and coaches used to do that sometimes. Stagg did that a few times, and you know, you read about it, and you know, here and there, people did that.
So, I mean, it just kind of tells you that it was a real upset, you know, that coach didn't even show up for the game. But that sounds, I mean, it sounds so strange, but I think you explained it the last time we had you on; we talked about the first coach and when the word coach was used, and it just recently aired as a podcast. And, you know, you usually explained to that, that the coaches really were important, not really as important at game time as the captains were, like they are today, you know.
So, it's. Yeah, the captains called the plays, there was no coaching from the sideline, all of that, you know. So, the practice week was done so he could go scout the teams, and the captain took over.
Yeah, yeah. I mean, to some extent, that, you know, that is the case. But then, you know, so the other thing that's just kind of interesting about that team and football in general at the time was Harvard, Yale, and Princeton had policies that they didn't go to bowl games, right?
And, you know, this was still, you know, they didn't have postseason games. And so, this is, you know, the Rose Bowl had a game back in 02, and then that was kind of forgotten. And then they restarted it in 1916.
So, they're inviting, you know, the best team they could get from the east that played in the 1915 season. But, you know, so Harvard, Yale, Princeton wouldn't go. And so, you know, Brown ended up being, you know, the best team that they could find, you know, who would say yes.
You know, and so then they did whatever the five-day, you know, train trip out to Pasadena. But, you know, there were, you know, the Big Ten didn't allow teams to play in postseason games. They did allow Ohio State to play in the Rose Bowl, I think in like 22, I think it was.
You know, and so just in general. And then even teams that did where the school or the faculty allowed it, you know, sometimes the kids just said, no, we're done. You know, they're just, they were just done with the season.
And, you know, they'd already turned in their equipment, whatever. They didn't want to spend time away from family for the holidays, you know, those kinds of things. So, I mean, it's just a different world.
You know, we'd know so many teams playing bowls, you know, to begin with, but it's just kind of the expectation of, you know, well, of course, you're going to go to the bowl. But back then, you know, a lot of times, you know, teams had the opportunity to go, but they turned them down. But so Brown ended up, you know, playing in the game, and then they lost to Washington State.
So, you know, that was kind of a, for the folks out West, that was a big deal is, you know, kind of a credibility boost that one of their teams could play and beat, you know, a team that's now, you know, of the Ivy caliber. So, you know, it's a big, you know, kind of a big deal, you know, for those folks. Yeah.
So, okay. So we already said that Fritz Pollard was on that team. Was there anybody else significant on that team besides Pollard? Yeah.
One of them, Wade, now I'm blanking on his name. Wade, Wade, Wade, Wade. He was a guard or tackle.
Wallace Wade, sorry. And so he was, he coached Alabama, took them, you know, to a couple of Rose Bowls. And then he, he was the coach at Duke for quite a while.
They played when Oregon State played the Rose Bowl at Duke because of the bombing of Pearl Harbor. You know, so the 42 Rose Bowl, Wade was still the coach there. So, but he, you know, he and Pollard were probably the most famous of the Brown players that year.
Very interesting. And, you know, some great, great research, and we appreciate you sharing these teams and some of these innovations from football from so long ago, your football archaeology site. I want you to share with people how they can, you can find your tidbits that you'd share with us each and every day and how they can subscribe to your website to make sure they know when that you've released them.
Sure. So, you know, my website is just, you know, footballarchaeology.com. You can also find me on Twitter under the same name. And, you know, the gist of it is I publish these, I publish a tidbit every day, comes out at seven o'clock Eastern time.
And so if you subscribe, you'll get that as an email newsletter. And then obviously, if you're, you know, you could also just visit the site anytime you want. And, you know, there's a full archive in there with, you know, now getting on, you know, 300, you know, some article, you know, fully long-form articles or tidbits, which tend to be more, you know, 30 seconds to a minute long reads.
Okay. Just little snippets. And I can tell you that it is exactly right at 7 pm.
It's very consistent because usually my family and I were watching a rerun of the Big Bang Theory. And the chime for my email signal, my notification comes right at the same time of the theme song for Big Bang Theory every time. So it's like part of the song to us now.
Well, it's just gets scheduled in the application. You could have just take more punctuality credit for than that. Well, you know, so I still have to manually do it on Twitter.
So, you know, but then it's going to be a 703, 705, somewhere in there. Yeah. Yeah.
We're well into the show by then. So. All right, Tim.
Well, thank you very much. And we'll talk to you again next week with some more great football archaeology. Cool.
We'll see you next week. Thanks.
Transcribed by TurboScribe.ai.
First Two-Platoon All-America Team with Timothy Brown
Up until about World War II football players by rule pretty much had to play the entire game. There were not offensive and defensive specialists. The skill sets that soldiers who trained for war by playing football gained added a surplus of roster talent and the rules were then adapted post war to allow mass substitution as often as coaches wanted to.
This ushered in the era of two-platoon football and Timothy Brown of Football Archaeology wrote a great post on the first All-America team from this new era.
-Transcribed Conversation with Timothy Brown on the 1st Two-Platoon All-America Team
Hello, my football friends. This is Darin Hayes of PigskinDispatch.com. Welcome once again to The Pig Pen, your portal to positive football history, and welcome to another day where we get to talk to footballarchaeology.com's Timothy P. Brown about one of the great tidbits that he writes every day about football of yesteryear. Tim, welcome back to The Pig Pen.
Hey, Darin. Thank you for having me on. I look forward to talking about two-platoon football.
Yeah, why don't you first let's give you a title? You titled this tidbit back in October of 2022, the first two-platoon All-America team. And why don't you explain to the audience what two-platoon football is and what was significant about this All-America team? Yeah.
So, back in the day, if you played a football game, you put your 11 guys or 15 guys out there, and that's who you played with. There were no substitutions. Then they started allowing substitutions, but pretty much, once you left the game, you were out, just like soccer remains today.
It was the same game; they came from the same origin, so similar rules applied. But over time, football allowed substitutions in certain instances, but for the most part, until 1941, if you, once you're out, you're out. There were no go-backs. And so, in 1941, because of concern about the, you know, there were a lot of guys enlisting, and they were, you know, I'm not sure if they were being drafted yet or not, but either way, there were a lot of college-age men heading into the military, even, you know, pre-Pearl Harbor.
And so, they were concerned about roster sizes. And so, they passed a rule allowing coaches to substitute anytime they wanted to in a game. And so, the funny thing is, this is, you know, I think at multiple levels, this is a story of how much people follow tradition as much as the rules.
So, even though the rule was passed in 41, pretty much without exception, the only people who got substituted, in the way that we think about it today, were kickers and punters. You know, coaches would bring in those kinds of people, but they and even those were very few because typically your punter, the kicker was your halfback or somebody, you know, one of the regular players. And so, but then in 1945, Michigan had a really depleted roster, and they were going to play, you know, Army, which had, you know, Blanchard and Davis and a bunch of other guys.
And they just knew they were just going to get their lunch handed to them. And so, Fritz Crisler, the coach, was looking for, you know, some way to try to, you know, give his team an advantage. And so, he realized, hey, the way this rule is written, I can swap my offense and defense out whenever I want to or swap players in whenever I want to.
Even though nobody's done it, the rule says I can't. So, from his vantage point, he was exploiting a loophole, right? I mean, not in the way the rule was written, but in the way it had been traditionally applied. So, he does that against the Army.
He basically plays offensive and defensive units. I think there were three or four guys who played both ways. They're, you know, that much better players.
Other coaches picked up on that, and they started doing it. Over the next couple of years, the two platoons, you know, the old no substitution was called the single tune. And two platoon, what became, you know, kind of the standard term for swapping offensive and defensive players.
And so, then, that's fine. And there, it was raining, you know, gaining speed. But it wasn't until 1948 that anyone named an all-American team with two platoons.
So, in 1945, 46, and 47, they still kept naming a single platoon all-American team. So, 11 guys, no specialists, right? And so, finally, this organization called the NEA was a big one, kind of like the UPI or the AP or somebody, you know, along those lines at the time. They named a two-platoon all-American team in 1948.
So, just, you know, some of the guys whose names, you know, a lot of people probably will recognize as Charlie Justice, who was back at, you know, North Carolina, Doke Walker of SMU, Eddie LeBaron, who played at Pacific, some guy named Darryl Royal, who was at Texas. Leon Hart was the only player named to play on both the offensive and defensive teams at Notre Dame. So, then the other thing I just said is that it doesn't so much relate to 1940. I just find it really interesting that it was not until the 1980s that all-American teams added kickers and punters to their rosters, right? So, I mean, it took all that, so, you know, we had moved into specialist players.
I mean, even through the 60s, there were still a lot of kickers and punters who were everyday players, right? You know, Don, like I grew up, so Don Chandler, an end originally and kicked, was a kicker as well. Honey Anderson was the punter, and he was a halfback, you know, so there was a lot of that going on. And like George Blanda, you know, he was a quarterback.
Yeah, Lou Groza is a lineman. Yeah, exactly. I mean, you can just go through it; there's a whole slew of guys like that.
And so, but so anyways, you know, but clearly specialists had come into the game, especially after the, you know, onset of the soccer-style kicker in the 60s, you know, with the Go-Go Axe and others. But it wasn't until the 80s that they, you know, they named separate punters and kickers. So just, you know, it's an amazing thing that it took that long.
Yeah. Wow. I didn't realize that about the punters and kickers.
I thought that would have been, you know, going on for a while. I was like, man, that's great stuff. So, you know, I guess the kickers today, even though they feel that they're shunned by the rest of football and looked down upon a little bit of not being, you know, sometimes called not real football players and everything, they would have been pissed back in the 70s when they weren't even honored.
Yeah. Well, you know, and the funny thing about it is like, you know, if you go back and you read the newspaper reports of guys who were named all American in the teens and the twenties and thirties and whatnot, a lot of backs were named, you know, especially in the heavy punting years, you know, they were named as much for their punting ability as for their running ability or their passing ability. You know, punting was just so important to the game, and they were the ones who did it.
Yeah. It wasn't like Jim Thorpe, one of the greatest punters and dropkickers ever. And that was sort of what some of his fame was besides his running.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Right. I mean, that's the triple threat. You know, the whole thing is running, passing, and kicking. You know, it is either a form of kicking or typically punting. So yeah, I mean, it was, there's, I mean, you just can go on and on about the, the number of guys who, who were especially running backs with, you know, fullbacks, fullbacks, a lot of times were like the big studs of the teams in the twenties and thirties.
And, you know, a lot of them were, were really, really effective punters. Yeah. So I guess, you know, World War II changed the world, and it changed the world of football, too.
So it's sort of that line of debarkation between the single platoon and the dual platoon because of the rule changes and, you know, a substitution. So very interesting. Great stuff.
Well, then, in college, they went back to single platoon in 52. The pros, you know, once the pros went, you know, swapping offensive, offense, and defense, they never looked back, you know, their game was much more about entertainment and everything. But once you went to platoon, you needed more coaches and bigger rosters.
The coaches became more specialized. I mean, think about how much more complicated the game has become. And a lot of that's because it's two platoons, you know if you only have so many minutes a week to impart, you know, knowledge and techniques to players, if you got to cut it in half, well, you know, it can't be as, you know, you just can't complicate it as much.
So, these coaches studied just defense and coached just defense. So, I mean, it's, you know, certainly among the top four, five, six rules in terms of the effect on the game, but the colleges went back in 52 to dual platoon really as a cost-saving measure. And then, you know, kind of slowly, and then especially in the late fifties and early sixties, swapped it over.
By 64, Katie had barred the door, you know, a total of two platoons. Wow. Amazing stuff.
And you sit there, and you think about how good athletes these guys had to be to be on the field for, you know, 60 minutes or 48 minutes, whatever it was at the time. It might've been longer than that back in that era, but they had longer, longer halves back then, too, like 35-minute halves. Yeah, that was more; that was all like pre-1912 or something like that.
I mean, that was earlier. Yeah. But I mean, just think about it in terms of just the shape of, you know, what players look like.
I mean, you know, you've got these six, eight, six, nine, 340-pound guys running around now, can't play a 60-minute game. They just can't. No, they can't even take all the offensive-defensive snaps, you know, unless you're an offensive lineman or a quarterback, you're, you're probably going to get substituted in while your team is on the field, and that, uh, that genre, that offense or defense.
Yeah. Yeah. And you know, my part of my argument is always looking at world-class rugby teams, and they've got guys for six, three, two 60, you know, running around as the, you know, kind of the forwards blocking, um, you know, they're the guys leading the scrum, but there aren't, you know, there aren't the kind of guys that you see in the NFL or, you know, almost any major college team.
And nowadays, half the D3 teams have kids who weigh more than 300 pounds, right? Um, you know, so it's, you know, you just can't, you can't play like that in a, in a 60-minute game, especially when there were far, there weren't TV titles, there weren't, you know, anywhere, there weren't anywhere near the number of passing completions or weren't that many balls out of bounds. The ball went out of bounds, and the clock kept running.
I mean, all that kind of, you know, the rules were so different. Um, the body types were different, but yeah, amazing stuff. Yeah.
Tremendous. Tim, you know, we enjoy these stories and, and, you know, learning about these little pieces of football, which this one's a pretty major story of the evolution of football, but, uh, you know, you, you share with these, uh, these stories and sometimes they're just fun. Sometimes they're really serious and game-changing like this one was. You call them your daily tidbits, and maybe you could tell folks how they can enjoy your daily tidbits.
Yeah. So, you know, the best thing is just to go to footballarchaeology.com and, you know, subscribe. You can subscribe for free.
You'll get an email. As a result, you'll get an email every night at seven o'clock with that day's story. Otherwise, you can follow me on Twitter, sometimes called X, but I don't call it that.
And then, catch me on the Substack app on threads or just bookmark the site and pop in whenever you want. Well, Tim, we appreciate you educating us and sharing your knowledge on football history. And we'd love to talk to you again next Tuesday about another one of your tidbits.
Well, I think we can find something to chat about next week. I'll leave that up to you. Thanks much.
Transcribed by TurboScribe.ai.
This ushered in the era of two-platoon football and Timothy Brown of Football Archaeology wrote a great post on the first All-America team from this new era.
-Transcribed Conversation with Timothy Brown on the 1st Two-Platoon All-America Team
Hello, my football friends. This is Darin Hayes of PigskinDispatch.com. Welcome once again to The Pig Pen, your portal to positive football history, and welcome to another day where we get to talk to footballarchaeology.com's Timothy P. Brown about one of the great tidbits that he writes every day about football of yesteryear. Tim, welcome back to The Pig Pen.
Hey, Darin. Thank you for having me on. I look forward to talking about two-platoon football.
Yeah, why don't you first let's give you a title? You titled this tidbit back in October of 2022, the first two-platoon All-America team. And why don't you explain to the audience what two-platoon football is and what was significant about this All-America team? Yeah.
So, back in the day, if you played a football game, you put your 11 guys or 15 guys out there, and that's who you played with. There were no substitutions. Then they started allowing substitutions, but pretty much, once you left the game, you were out, just like soccer remains today.
It was the same game; they came from the same origin, so similar rules applied. But over time, football allowed substitutions in certain instances, but for the most part, until 1941, if you, once you're out, you're out. There were no go-backs. And so, in 1941, because of concern about the, you know, there were a lot of guys enlisting, and they were, you know, I'm not sure if they were being drafted yet or not, but either way, there were a lot of college-age men heading into the military, even, you know, pre-Pearl Harbor.
And so, they were concerned about roster sizes. And so, they passed a rule allowing coaches to substitute anytime they wanted to in a game. And so, the funny thing is, this is, you know, I think at multiple levels, this is a story of how much people follow tradition as much as the rules.
So, even though the rule was passed in 41, pretty much without exception, the only people who got substituted, in the way that we think about it today, were kickers and punters. You know, coaches would bring in those kinds of people, but they and even those were very few because typically your punter, the kicker was your halfback or somebody, you know, one of the regular players. And so, but then in 1945, Michigan had a really depleted roster, and they were going to play, you know, Army, which had, you know, Blanchard and Davis and a bunch of other guys.
And they just knew they were just going to get their lunch handed to them. And so, Fritz Crisler, the coach, was looking for, you know, some way to try to, you know, give his team an advantage. And so, he realized, hey, the way this rule is written, I can swap my offense and defense out whenever I want to or swap players in whenever I want to.
Even though nobody's done it, the rule says I can't. So, from his vantage point, he was exploiting a loophole, right? I mean, not in the way the rule was written, but in the way it had been traditionally applied. So, he does that against the Army.
He basically plays offensive and defensive units. I think there were three or four guys who played both ways. They're, you know, that much better players.
Other coaches picked up on that, and they started doing it. Over the next couple of years, the two platoons, you know, the old no substitution was called the single tune. And two platoon, what became, you know, kind of the standard term for swapping offensive and defensive players.
And so, then, that's fine. And there, it was raining, you know, gaining speed. But it wasn't until 1948 that anyone named an all-American team with two platoons.
So, in 1945, 46, and 47, they still kept naming a single platoon all-American team. So, 11 guys, no specialists, right? And so, finally, this organization called the NEA was a big one, kind of like the UPI or the AP or somebody, you know, along those lines at the time. They named a two-platoon all-American team in 1948.
So, just, you know, some of the guys whose names, you know, a lot of people probably will recognize as Charlie Justice, who was back at, you know, North Carolina, Doke Walker of SMU, Eddie LeBaron, who played at Pacific, some guy named Darryl Royal, who was at Texas. Leon Hart was the only player named to play on both the offensive and defensive teams at Notre Dame. So, then the other thing I just said is that it doesn't so much relate to 1940. I just find it really interesting that it was not until the 1980s that all-American teams added kickers and punters to their rosters, right? So, I mean, it took all that, so, you know, we had moved into specialist players.
I mean, even through the 60s, there were still a lot of kickers and punters who were everyday players, right? You know, Don, like I grew up, so Don Chandler, an end originally and kicked, was a kicker as well. Honey Anderson was the punter, and he was a halfback, you know, so there was a lot of that going on. And like George Blanda, you know, he was a quarterback.
Yeah, Lou Groza is a lineman. Yeah, exactly. I mean, you can just go through it; there's a whole slew of guys like that.
And so, but so anyways, you know, but clearly specialists had come into the game, especially after the, you know, onset of the soccer-style kicker in the 60s, you know, with the Go-Go Axe and others. But it wasn't until the 80s that they, you know, they named separate punters and kickers. So just, you know, it's an amazing thing that it took that long.
Yeah. Wow. I didn't realize that about the punters and kickers.
I thought that would have been, you know, going on for a while. I was like, man, that's great stuff. So, you know, I guess the kickers today, even though they feel that they're shunned by the rest of football and looked down upon a little bit of not being, you know, sometimes called not real football players and everything, they would have been pissed back in the 70s when they weren't even honored.
Yeah. Well, you know, and the funny thing about it is like, you know, if you go back and you read the newspaper reports of guys who were named all American in the teens and the twenties and thirties and whatnot, a lot of backs were named, you know, especially in the heavy punting years, you know, they were named as much for their punting ability as for their running ability or their passing ability. You know, punting was just so important to the game, and they were the ones who did it.
Yeah. It wasn't like Jim Thorpe, one of the greatest punters and dropkickers ever. And that was sort of what some of his fame was besides his running.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Right. I mean, that's the triple threat. You know, the whole thing is running, passing, and kicking. You know, it is either a form of kicking or typically punting. So yeah, I mean, it was, there's, I mean, you just can go on and on about the, the number of guys who, who were especially running backs with, you know, fullbacks, fullbacks, a lot of times were like the big studs of the teams in the twenties and thirties.
And, you know, a lot of them were, were really, really effective punters. Yeah. So I guess, you know, World War II changed the world, and it changed the world of football, too.
So it's sort of that line of debarkation between the single platoon and the dual platoon because of the rule changes and, you know, a substitution. So very interesting. Great stuff.
Well, then, in college, they went back to single platoon in 52. The pros, you know, once the pros went, you know, swapping offensive, offense, and defense, they never looked back, you know, their game was much more about entertainment and everything. But once you went to platoon, you needed more coaches and bigger rosters.
The coaches became more specialized. I mean, think about how much more complicated the game has become. And a lot of that's because it's two platoons, you know if you only have so many minutes a week to impart, you know, knowledge and techniques to players, if you got to cut it in half, well, you know, it can't be as, you know, you just can't complicate it as much.
So, these coaches studied just defense and coached just defense. So, I mean, it's, you know, certainly among the top four, five, six rules in terms of the effect on the game, but the colleges went back in 52 to dual platoon really as a cost-saving measure. And then, you know, kind of slowly, and then especially in the late fifties and early sixties, swapped it over.
By 64, Katie had barred the door, you know, a total of two platoons. Wow. Amazing stuff.
And you sit there, and you think about how good athletes these guys had to be to be on the field for, you know, 60 minutes or 48 minutes, whatever it was at the time. It might've been longer than that back in that era, but they had longer, longer halves back then, too, like 35-minute halves. Yeah, that was more; that was all like pre-1912 or something like that.
I mean, that was earlier. Yeah. But I mean, just think about it in terms of just the shape of, you know, what players look like.
I mean, you know, you've got these six, eight, six, nine, 340-pound guys running around now, can't play a 60-minute game. They just can't. No, they can't even take all the offensive-defensive snaps, you know, unless you're an offensive lineman or a quarterback, you're, you're probably going to get substituted in while your team is on the field, and that, uh, that genre, that offense or defense.
Yeah. Yeah. And you know, my part of my argument is always looking at world-class rugby teams, and they've got guys for six, three, two 60, you know, running around as the, you know, kind of the forwards blocking, um, you know, they're the guys leading the scrum, but there aren't, you know, there aren't the kind of guys that you see in the NFL or, you know, almost any major college team.
And nowadays, half the D3 teams have kids who weigh more than 300 pounds, right? Um, you know, so it's, you know, you just can't, you can't play like that in a, in a 60-minute game, especially when there were far, there weren't TV titles, there weren't, you know, anywhere, there weren't anywhere near the number of passing completions or weren't that many balls out of bounds. The ball went out of bounds, and the clock kept running.
I mean, all that kind of, you know, the rules were so different. Um, the body types were different, but yeah, amazing stuff. Yeah.
Tremendous. Tim, you know, we enjoy these stories and, and, you know, learning about these little pieces of football, which this one's a pretty major story of the evolution of football, but, uh, you know, you, you share with these, uh, these stories and sometimes they're just fun. Sometimes they're really serious and game-changing like this one was. You call them your daily tidbits, and maybe you could tell folks how they can enjoy your daily tidbits.
Yeah. So, you know, the best thing is just to go to footballarchaeology.com and, you know, subscribe. You can subscribe for free.
You'll get an email. As a result, you'll get an email every night at seven o'clock with that day's story. Otherwise, you can follow me on Twitter, sometimes called X, but I don't call it that.
And then, catch me on the Substack app on threads or just bookmark the site and pop in whenever you want. Well, Tim, we appreciate you educating us and sharing your knowledge on football history. And we'd love to talk to you again next Tuesday about another one of your tidbits.
Well, I think we can find something to chat about next week. I'll leave that up to you. Thanks much.
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Five Seasons that Defined Ole Miss Football
Ole Miss claims three national championships in football, but the 2015 season was the first in which the Rebels earned a spot in the Sugar Bowl or a final top 10 ranking since 1969. — www.saturdaydownsouth.com
Ole Miss football, with its storied history and passionate fanbase, is a program woven from both glory and heartache. In a tapestry of triumphs and near misses, five seasons stand out as radiant threads, forever etched in Rebel lore.
1. 1960-62: The Golden Trinity: This three-year stretch under John Vaught cemented Ole Miss as national powers. They captured two national titles ('60, '62) and finished ranked within the top five each year. Archie Manning's father, Jack, led the charge as quarterback, showcasing the offensive prowess that would become a Rebel trademark. This era established Ole Miss as a force to be reckoned with, planting the seeds for future success.
2. 1961: "The Longest Yard": While they finished second nationally, 1961 showcased the Rebels' indomitable spirit. Trailing arch-rival LSU by 17 points in the fourth quarter, the "Comeback in Tiger Stadium" saw Archie Morales throw a game-winning touchdown with 51 seconds left. This legendary victory encapsulated the never-say-die attitude that continues to define Ole Miss football.
3. 1995-96: Eli Manning Mania: Eli "Manningface" Manning arrived in Oxford under Tommy Tuberville, ushering in a new era of Rebel hope. With Manning's gunslinging talent and Deuce McAllister's potent rushing, the Rebels reached the Cotton Bowl twice in two years. Though national titles eluded them, these seasons laid the foundation for future Manning-led triumphs.
4. 2008-09: Houston Nutt's Renaissance: After a period of stagnation, Houston Nutt injected a renewed energy into the program. With Jevon Langford's electrifying runs and Dexter McCluster's versatility, the Rebels roared back onto the national scene. The "2008 Sugar Bowl Shuffle" victory over Utah cemented Nutt's legacy and rekindled fan optimism.
5. 2014-15: Bo Nix Magic: Enter the dual-threat phenomenon, Bo Nix. Leading a high-octane offense under Hugh Freeze, Nix's talent was undeniable. The "Egg Bowl Hail Mary" against rival Mississippi State in 2015, a last-second touchdown pass, stands as one of the most iconic plays in Ole Miss history. This era, though tinged with controversy, showcased the Rebels' offensive firepower and renewed their relevance in the SEC landscape.
These five seasons represent the vibrant tapestry of Ole Miss football. From national dominance to underdog triumphs, from individual brilliance to collective grit, they encapsulate the essence of Rebel spirit.
NFL intensity during the history compare modern American football with old school
The National Football League (NFL) has had a huge number of audiences for over a Century. But there is this huge question that linger in the mind of every American; has the intensity of the game changed from before?
Photo of NT Giants Andy Headen Tackling SF 49ers Wendell Tyler 12/29/85 by Jeno's Pizza courtesy Wikimedia Commons | AD
Though the league still has the core objective of scoring points, a deeper look reveals there is fascinating evolution in how that objective is being pursued. In the article, we will explore the differences between the modern-day NFL and the old school grind of years past.
-The Pre-1970s Old School NFL
Early NFL football was brutal. The game was a ground-and-pound affair. Talking about the physicality, equipment was far less protective. Leather helmets used offered minimal head protection. The tackling techniques were often more about stopping a play than player safety. Injuries were rampant and player's careers were easily shortened.
Despite a slower pace, the intensity of the old NFL was undeniable. Players needed immense toughness to endure the physical punishment. Games demanded a relentless focus on execution and a never-say-die attitude. Mental Toughness can also be attributed to the NFL of then. Quarterbacks faced immense pressure behind a porous offensive line. Leading a scoring drive required nerves of steel and an unwavering belief in one's ability to perform under duress.
There was a Blue-Collar Mentality in players of then. Many players came from tough backgrounds and brought that work ethic to the field. They were all about grinding it out and winning at all costs.
-Post-1970s, The Rise of the Modern NFL
The 1970s ushered in a new era of offensive games. There were many rule changes. Rule changes like pass interference penalties and the implementation of a two-deep safety limit gave quarterbacks more protection and passing lanes. This opened up the playbook and emphasized offensive creativity. Technology equally makes a major change. Improved equipment like stronger helmets and better padding allowed for a more aggressive, faster-paced game. Bigger and stronger athletes emerged. This led to a more physical style of play. Quarterbacks like Joe Namath and Johnny Unitas showcased the potential of the passing game. Teams started placing more value on the position, leading to the rise of superstar quarterbacks.
-The Intensity of Modern Era NFL
Today's NFL is a high-pressure, fast-paced game. It is a supercharged version of the old game. The game requires modern defenses to utilize complex schemes and disguises. It demands quarterbacks to have a deep understanding of the game and make split-second decisions.
Now, teams use all sorts of formations and plays to confuse the defense and get open receivers. This means every player on offense needs to be on the same page and execute perfectly. Also, modern athletes face intense scrutiny from the media and fans, adding another layer of pressure to their performance. With everyone watching, players feel tons of pressure to perform. They train all year round, knowing that every mistake can be seen by millions
-Similarities in Intensity
Despite the stylistic differences, the core elements of competitive spirit and mental toughness remain the same. Both eras share a relentless pursuit of victory. Players at every level train relentlessly and dedicate themselves to their craft for one goal of winning the Super Bowl.
The game has always been about Brotherhood. The camaraderie forged through shared struggle and sacrifice is a constant across eras. Whether it's the toughness of the old-school trenches or the mental agility of the modern huddle. There's a strong sense of teamwork that fuels the intensity.
Lastly, we noted that there's always pressure to Perform. Whether facing a brutal hit or a complex defensive scheme, players in both eras experience intense pressure to excel at the highest level.
-The Takeaway
The NFL has definitely changed over the years, but the drive to win and the intense competition haven't gone anywhere. Whether it's the legendary toughness of old-school teams or the strategic brilliance of today's squads, the fight for glory is what makes the NFL so exciting to watch.
However, the modern NFL has increased fan engagement through fantasy and betting options. Popular casino websites like superbcasino are contributing to the league's economic growth. More people are picking interest in the NFL because they can now easily get richer while also getting entertained.
Photo of NT Giants Andy Headen Tackling SF 49ers Wendell Tyler 12/29/85 by Jeno's Pizza courtesy Wikimedia Commons | AD
Though the league still has the core objective of scoring points, a deeper look reveals there is fascinating evolution in how that objective is being pursued. In the article, we will explore the differences between the modern-day NFL and the old school grind of years past.
-The Pre-1970s Old School NFL
Early NFL football was brutal. The game was a ground-and-pound affair. Talking about the physicality, equipment was far less protective. Leather helmets used offered minimal head protection. The tackling techniques were often more about stopping a play than player safety. Injuries were rampant and player's careers were easily shortened.
Despite a slower pace, the intensity of the old NFL was undeniable. Players needed immense toughness to endure the physical punishment. Games demanded a relentless focus on execution and a never-say-die attitude. Mental Toughness can also be attributed to the NFL of then. Quarterbacks faced immense pressure behind a porous offensive line. Leading a scoring drive required nerves of steel and an unwavering belief in one's ability to perform under duress.
There was a Blue-Collar Mentality in players of then. Many players came from tough backgrounds and brought that work ethic to the field. They were all about grinding it out and winning at all costs.
-Post-1970s, The Rise of the Modern NFL
The 1970s ushered in a new era of offensive games. There were many rule changes. Rule changes like pass interference penalties and the implementation of a two-deep safety limit gave quarterbacks more protection and passing lanes. This opened up the playbook and emphasized offensive creativity. Technology equally makes a major change. Improved equipment like stronger helmets and better padding allowed for a more aggressive, faster-paced game. Bigger and stronger athletes emerged. This led to a more physical style of play. Quarterbacks like Joe Namath and Johnny Unitas showcased the potential of the passing game. Teams started placing more value on the position, leading to the rise of superstar quarterbacks.
-The Intensity of Modern Era NFL
Today's NFL is a high-pressure, fast-paced game. It is a supercharged version of the old game. The game requires modern defenses to utilize complex schemes and disguises. It demands quarterbacks to have a deep understanding of the game and make split-second decisions.
Now, teams use all sorts of formations and plays to confuse the defense and get open receivers. This means every player on offense needs to be on the same page and execute perfectly. Also, modern athletes face intense scrutiny from the media and fans, adding another layer of pressure to their performance. With everyone watching, players feel tons of pressure to perform. They train all year round, knowing that every mistake can be seen by millions
-Similarities in Intensity
Despite the stylistic differences, the core elements of competitive spirit and mental toughness remain the same. Both eras share a relentless pursuit of victory. Players at every level train relentlessly and dedicate themselves to their craft for one goal of winning the Super Bowl.
The game has always been about Brotherhood. The camaraderie forged through shared struggle and sacrifice is a constant across eras. Whether it's the toughness of the old-school trenches or the mental agility of the modern huddle. There's a strong sense of teamwork that fuels the intensity.
Lastly, we noted that there's always pressure to Perform. Whether facing a brutal hit or a complex defensive scheme, players in both eras experience intense pressure to excel at the highest level.
-The Takeaway
The NFL has definitely changed over the years, but the drive to win and the intense competition haven't gone anywhere. Whether it's the legendary toughness of old-school teams or the strategic brilliance of today's squads, the fight for glory is what makes the NFL so exciting to watch.
However, the modern NFL has increased fan engagement through fantasy and betting options. Popular casino websites like superbcasino are contributing to the league's economic growth. More people are picking interest in the NFL because they can now easily get richer while also getting entertained.
Where Football Meets Folklore
Texas A&M football isn't just about touchdowns and tackles; it's a theatrical display of time-honored rituals that infuse the gridiron with the Aggie spirit. From the thundering echoes of Midnight Yell to the electrifying "Gig 'em, Aggies!" roar, these traditions transcend the game, weaving a vibrant tapestry of Aggie identity.
At the heart lies the 12th Man, a concept not etched in a roster but forged in the spirit of unwavering support. In 1922, when an injured player left the Aggies short-handed, E. King Gill volunteered to stand on the sidelines, symbolizing the ever-present, ever-roaring 12th Man on the field. This spirit resonates in every cheer, every "Howay!" and every triumphant "Whoop!"
Midnight Yell, held the night before every home game, is a spectacle of Aggie unity. Under the Texan sky, thousands pour into Kyle Field, their voices rising in a symphony of cheers, yells, and Aggie hymns. Reveille, the beloved collie mascot, joins the chorus, her barks punctuating the rhythmic chants that electrify the air and send shivers down opposing spines.
Then there's the iconic maroon and white. Fans transform the stadium into a sea of vibrant hues, creating a visual spectacle that rivals any highlight reel. From the maroon pom-poms dancing in the stands to the Aggie Ring gleaming on hands, these colors are emblems of pride, worn with unwavering loyalty.
Beyond the chants and the cheers lies the unique Aggie language. From the simple "Howdy!" greeting to the playful "Gig 'em" battle cry, these colloquialisms bind Aggies together, creating a sense of belonging that transcends generations.
These traditions are more than just rituals; they're threads woven into the very fabric of Aggie football.
At the heart lies the 12th Man, a concept not etched in a roster but forged in the spirit of unwavering support. In 1922, when an injured player left the Aggies short-handed, E. King Gill volunteered to stand on the sidelines, symbolizing the ever-present, ever-roaring 12th Man on the field. This spirit resonates in every cheer, every "Howay!" and every triumphant "Whoop!"
Midnight Yell, held the night before every home game, is a spectacle of Aggie unity. Under the Texan sky, thousands pour into Kyle Field, their voices rising in a symphony of cheers, yells, and Aggie hymns. Reveille, the beloved collie mascot, joins the chorus, her barks punctuating the rhythmic chants that electrify the air and send shivers down opposing spines.
Then there's the iconic maroon and white. Fans transform the stadium into a sea of vibrant hues, creating a visual spectacle that rivals any highlight reel. From the maroon pom-poms dancing in the stands to the Aggie Ring gleaming on hands, these colors are emblems of pride, worn with unwavering loyalty.
Beyond the chants and the cheers lies the unique Aggie language. From the simple "Howdy!" greeting to the playful "Gig 'em" battle cry, these colloquialisms bind Aggies together, creating a sense of belonging that transcends generations.
These traditions are more than just rituals; they're threads woven into the very fabric of Aggie football.
A Symbol of Grit and Tradition
Minnesota Golden Gophers Logo PNG The University of Minnesota sponsors 23 athletic teams competing in the Big Ten Conference. Meaning and history The consistency of the Minnesota Golden Gophers logo is outstanding. Since 1986 when the current emblem was introduced, there have been no major updates. As a result, the school’s athletic program boasts a — 1000logos.net
The Minnesota Golden Gophers football logo is a simple yet powerful symbol that represents the program's history, values, and spirit. Here's a breakdown of its key features:
-Main Design:
The logo prominently features a golden gopher, a thirteen-lined ground squirrel native to Minnesota and the university's mascot.
The gopher is depicted in a running pose, symbolizing the program's commitment to hard work, determination, and athleticism.
Its fierce expression conveys the Gophers' competitive nature and their unwavering spirit.
-Color Scheme:
The dominant color is gold, representing the university's official color and evoking a sense of prestige and victory.
A black outline surrounds the gopher, enhancing its visual impact and creating a sense of strength and stability.
The combination of gold and black creates a classic and timeless aesthetic that has stood the test of time.
For more on the Gophes Logo and its history check out 1000Logos.net.
Celebrating Timothy Brown and His National Archives Recognition
Football Daily | The U.S. National Archives recognized the Football Archaeology of Timothy Brown in a Display — pigskindispatch.com
Timothy Brown of Football Archaeology joins us again this week to educate us on another aspect of football. This week Tim brings to us the honor he received in his research that brought him national attention. I am talking like the National Archives display attention! Listen in on Tim's great news!
-Transcribed Chat on the National Archives Celebration of Timothy Brown
Hello, my football friends. This is Darin Hayes of PigskinDispatch.com. Welcome once again to the Pig Pen, your portal to positive football history. And it is Tuesday.
And once again, we have our friend from FootballArcheology.com, Timothy P. Brown, the historian, the author, the great researcher of football, Tim Brown. Welcome back to the Pig Pen. Hey, thank you, sir.
Appreciate it, Darin. Looking forward to chatting once again. Yeah, Tim, you brought up a very interesting topic that you want to discuss tonight.
It's about something with the National Archives that you were able to be a part of, and hoping you could explain that to us and share it with us. And maybe some of us can get out there and witness it ourselves. Yeah.
So, you know, I posted a thing about this on my on football archaeology. But so basically what happened is I was invited to attend like a pre-opening of a new exhibit at the National Archives. And, you know, it was first time that I had been there.
But, you know, if you if you've been to D.C. and you checked out the National Archives Museum in the rotunda, they've got the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. And then they have one room off to the side that has all kinds of, you know, kind of the history of the archives and the types of records they maintain, et cetera. Then, in the other direction is their special exhibit hall.
And so they recently opened an exhibit called All American, the Power of Sports. And so it's essentially a it's a it's an exhibit that will be open till for another like 14 months or so. But it's all about, you know, the role of sports in in bringing different types of people together.
And so in some cases, what they're, you know, is the emergence of opportunities for African-Americans in sports, for people of different ethnic backgrounds in sports, and for women as well. And so that's that's the general theme. And they've just got some really, you know, it's got some incredibly cool items, you know, a diary or autobiography, you know, that now I'm blanking on his first name, but big Boxer Johnson wrote while he was in, you know, the federal penitentiary.
There were all kinds of just really interesting artifacts, some things from, you know, Japanese internment camps. I mean, you name it. You know, there's a little bit of everything.
But and it was, you know, really nice events. I got to meet Anita Thorpe, Jim Thorpe's granddaughter, because one of the items on display is are his replacement medals, you know, from the 1912 Olympics. Dikembe Mutombo was the featured speaker.
So, you know, he gave a talk, and I had a chance to chat with him. And, you know, there are another, I don't know, half a dozen former NBA guys there. Did he shake his finger back at you? No.
Yeah. Well, I got close enough for him to strike me or wave his finger at me. But I tried to play nice with him.
So now he's, you know, really wonderful guy. He's doing some some great work raising funds for some challenges that, you know, are in Africa today. But but anyways.
And so the reason I was invited is that I had gotten involved in, you know, and, you know, did a lot of research on a story about the in the, you know, within the past year, the National Archives was processing some photographs, some old slides, actually, from West Point. And the guy who was doing the processing noticed that, you know, these were negatives. And so anyway, there are negatives.
He noticed that one of them, instead of all the people in the negative, had black faces in the negative; they had white faces. So he's like, oh, what's going on? You know, so anyway, he checked it out. It turned out to be this 1920s football team that represented the West Point Cavalry Detachment.
So they were Buffalo soldiers, so African-American men. And they were basically enlisted men stationed at West Point who taught, you know, maintain the stables and the horses but also taught horseback riding, et cetera, and cavalry tactics to the cadets, you know, many of whom grew up in a city and maybe didn't have a lot of, you know, experience in horsemanship. But these guys ended up, you know, having sports teams.
And West Point had an enlisted men's league. So there were a group there's a group of enlisted men who supported who helped teach the cadets artillery tactics. And there were other people in like medical and there are other people, you know, so there were different functions and each of them fielded a team.
So as I was, you know, I basically tried to figure out who these guys were. And because, you know, there was an article in The Washington Post about it that hadn't gotten into the detail. So, I basically figured out who these guys played.
I was able to find images of the twenty-eight, twenty-nine, and thirty teams, you know, in the old, you know, Spalding-type football guys. And so, you know, basically, I could start identifying who some of these guys were in the picture. While I was doing that research, I ended up seeing this trophy that a guy had online and, like, you know, a collectors group on Facebook.
And it was like it was a trophy for this West Point enlisted men's league awarded to the cavalry detachment. So I got a hold of them. And, you know, one thing led to another.
You know, it's just we've become friends. Ron Pomprey is the the owner. But when I wrote this stuff up, then the National Archives somehow came across it.
And so they reached out to the combination of Ron and I. And so he has his trophy on loan to the archives and as part of the exhibit. So it's just so that's why the two of us were invited to this thing and, you know, had a wonderful time. And so it was just a great event.
And, you know, there are some people there who just kind of stay in touch. And, you know, I just don't want to go into the names right now, but I'll just have that be very, very cool. What an honor to have something that you wrote be recognized by the National Archives.
And you get invited to go down there and celebrate, you know, this great sports heritage that we have seen here in the United States, along with the owner of the trophy. So that's really cool. Let's.
Yeah. Congratulations on that. Yeah.
So it's anyway, it's really fun. And, you know, just it's a great exhibit. And so if you live in the area generally or if you have plans to go to Washington, yeah, check it out.
You know, I mean, you could you could do it inside of an hour, probably, you know, and get a pretty good, pretty thorough going through. But really, it's a fun exhibit. And then the other reason I just want to point it out is that I. Have been trying to find ways to get some publicity around some of the research that I've done because I've kind of hit a wall.
And so. Anybody out there who was listening to this, who is aware of an ancestor who was with the cavalry detachment. At West Point in the 20s.
But please take a look at the site because I may have images of your grandfather, great uncle, great great, you know, whatever it may be, whatever the relationship may be. So I'm trying to trying to get people to go out there to see if we can identify some additional, you know, some more of these men. Right.
I probably figured out who half of them are, you know, and tracked them down through census records and everything. But there are others. All I have is the last name.
And I just haven't been able to get anywhere with them. Yeah. Get them recognized.
It would be so awesome to have them preserved in history as well and get the recognition they deserve for being, you know, such a pioneer and a trailblazer for what they did. So, yeah. And just, you know, for, you know, all the folks out there, you know, it's just cool to kind of learn something.
You know, I reached out to one or two people who weren't aware that their grandfather or green uncle had been on these teams, you know. So it was something they learned, something new. Yeah, definitely.
Very cool. OK, now I'm going to expose my ignorance, at least my ignorance, in one area. I have many ignorances.
But OK, the National Archives, we know that Washington, D.C., is that connected to the Smithsonian and the Library of Congress, or are they all separate entities? Boy, yeah. In terms of organizational structure on that, I do not know. I mean, you know, I think the archives, I think, you know, basically their basic charge is to maintain the history of all public records.
You know, so obviously, they're involved in some of the things going on now with Mar-a-Lago, et cetera. But, you know, that's that's their main charge. And so, I mean, they've got census records.
They've got all kinds of geologic and, you know, you name it. You know, just all kinds of things that. You know, one government entity or another generated the military personnel records, you know, fall under them.
So, I mean, they've got a massive charge. You know, they've got a lot of work to do. So.
All right. So maybe it's a little different. The Smithsonian is just all the other stuff that's the things and the archives is the records and the documentation and data that's collected.
OK, I gotcha. Yeah, gotcha. OK, well, Tim, I very much appreciate you joining us.
Before we let you go, why don't you share with us your website and how people can stay in touch with you and learn about what you share with your tidbits? Yeah. So my website is footballarchaeology.com. It's a substack site, if that means anything to you. But basically, just, you know, just go to the address footballarchaeology.com. You can subscribe there.
That'll result in you getting an email every day with whatever that day's story is. You can also follow me on Twitter, and I'm a football archaeologist there as well. So, following on Twitter is great.
But the unfortunate thing is you might miss a couple of episodes here and there. So if you subscribe, you're going to get every one of them. You can still delete them if you don't want to read them.
But if you miss it, you don't have time to read it. Save it in your inbox, and you can double the pleasure the next day. So that's yeah, you know, and most of them take less than a minute to read.
So, you know, they're they're pretty quick. But good stuff as always. Congratulations again on that great honor of being recognized and getting to go down there and on that visit with your friend who has the trophy.
So, you know, Tim, we enjoy your company each and every Tuesday. Hope that we can continue to do this and talk to you again next Tuesday and get some more football archaeology brought into the pig pen. So, thanks, Tim.
Hey, very good. Thanks, Darin. I appreciate it, as always.
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Eliminating the 2nd Half Kick?
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How important is the kick off right after the half in football? Can the game be better served by starting a half in a different way? Would this break tradition and ruin the game?
These questions were posed to rules makers long ago as well as in the modern era. Timothy P. Brown examines a session of thought along these lines from his Tidbit, footballarchaeology.com/p/todays-tidbit-getting-a-kick-out?utm_source=publication-search">Getting A Kick Out Of The Second Half.
-Transcription of the Elimination of the 2nd Half Kick with Timothy Brown
Hello, my football friends, this is Darin Hayes of PigskinDispatch.com. Welcome once again to The Pig Pen, your portal to positive football history. And we are going to go in a really historic mode here and go with Timothy P. Brown and his FootballArcheology.com daily tidbits. He has one from January that we're going to talk about the kickoffs starting the second half.
Tim, welcome back to The Pig Pen. Darin, thank you. Appreciate being here and looking forward to chatting once again this evening.
Yeah, it's, you know, an interesting topic that you are talking about. We know, you know, traditionally in football, I can't think of a football game where I've ever had anything else besides unless you get some exotic like the original XFL where you start the game in each half with a kickoff, and the second half is no exception. And, you know, you've got some interesting story from the past on the second-half kickoff that we'd love to hear about.
Yeah, so this is, you know, this story, and I think, to put it in context, you kind of have to start from the standpoint that football is a game, and all games are just made up. It's got a made-up set of rules that are totally arbitrary. You know, if we decided tomorrow that a touchdown was going to be worth 24 points, boom, we make the change.
And that's what it is. It's just everything about the game is arbitrary. So, you know, basketball, you could give people two steps per dribble or use a 12 foot high basket.
Baseball could be three balls and two strikes. You know, I mean, so anything is negotiable. So, for various reasons, there have been times when people wanted to get rid of the kickoff in the second half.
And, you know, football had a kickoff in the second half because soccer or rugby had one. And, you know, that's kind of the only reason we, you know, we had it. And there's been suggestions to get rid of it for safety reasons.
You know, Amos Alonzo Stag, you know, argued for it. You know, go back in the day. But so there periodically, you know, this is what is an idea that kind of came up time and again and just never happened.
So it came up in 1898. It came up in 1928. It came up in the 30s a couple of times, but it just never happened because what they were one of the ideas that people throughout there was, instead of kicking off in the second half, just put the ball back where it was at the end of the first half.
And the team that had possession just takes possession and just carries on because, you know, kind of the thinking was halftime's really just to allow the players to rest. So, just put the ball back where it was. Right.
So it's almost like ending in the first quarter, going into the second quarter, the third quarter, and going into the fourth quarter. Yeah, exactly. Right.
So that's actually a great, you know, that's a great kind of analogy. I mean, we had the quarter system come in later on, too. Right.
But anyways, so, you know, but so if you think about it, just, you know, one of the fun things to play with this kind of what how would it change the game strategy? You know, if we adopted, you know, if next year for college football, we said, you know what, we're not going to kick off in the second half anymore. We're going to put the ball wherever it was spotted at the end of the first half. So if you're if you're on offense, how does that change your thinking about what you're doing at the end of the first half? You know, if you have it on the 48 or the 38, you're probably not going to try a long field goal just because time's running out.
You know, you're not going to be as risky, perhaps in your play calling, you know, because, you know, and both, you know, in certain situations, you might also be willing to, you know, if if you turn the ball over either on downs or otherwise, you know, you still got your opponent deep in their end zone. So even if they start the second half with the ball, they're down on the two or on the 10 or 15, whatever it may be. So just, you know, some of those kinds of things.
It's just kind of interesting to think about how that would change the game. You know, I mean, like if you're trying to manage the clock. At the end of the first half, you know, there's really no reason to manage the clock very much, right? It would definitely take an exciting element out of the game because there's that panic and urgency at the end of each half, you know, the end of the game, definitely. But at the end of the first half, there's that urgency to, hey, I got to get in field goal range or go into that two-minute or four-minute offense to get down there.
And there's an excitement that really puts you on the edge of your seat, so to speak. And, you know, that would be definitely an element that would probably be taken away that I don't I think some a lot of football traditionalists would be up in arms if they said, as you said, college football is going to no second-half kickoff. You know what I think? Well, OK, but the flip side of that.
And so, I mean, we know that this whole thing, this excitement, has evolved, right? Because, you know, there were times like the whole two-minute drill. That's, you know, that didn't really come about to the late 50s, early 60s. So, you know, some of this stuff has evolved.
Also, different approaches may have evolved. The other side of it is imagine the first half ends, and I'm on offense, and I've got the ball on your two-yard line. OK, well, half ends, we go into our locker rooms, and then we come back out on the field.
And now, the whole time, you're sitting there thinking, damn, they've got the ball on the two. And I'm like, who, we've got the ball, you know? So, I mean, there would be a whole lot of other kinds of anticipation during halftime when thinking about what you're going to do. How are you going to respond? You know, what play am I going to call? What defense are you going to try to call, you know, against it? You know, so I don't know.
I think there's some there, you know, that could potentially be interesting things. But the other side of it is some of the same kind of dissatisfaction with, you know, with kind of the way how the half ended. You know, there were times when I've written an article about this, too, but there have been times when people proposed getting rid of the clock entirely.
And instead of playing for 15 minutes, they would play 20 play quarters. So whoever got the ball, you know, if they had a 19-play drive, well, then the other team would only get one play that quarter. And they were actually, you know, there were some test games, you know, using that in the, I want to say, like 22, 23 eras.
Some people argued that the teams should be given five downs inside the 20 because they wanted to give them a chance to score. Right. So anyway, and then other people even like Pop Warner argued for giving teams a point for every first down.
You know, so, you know, I don't know. These are all kind of bizarre little. Well, we think they're bizarre because we're used to a certain set of rules, but.
All three of those or and the, you know, the change in our elimination of the kickoff makes sense to it's just. A different idea. Yeah, I can remember back in my officiating days, and this is pretty recent, probably like 15 or 20 years ago, where you had the traditional second-half coin toss when it really wasn't a coin toss.
It's just the captains that come out and make their choices. But this was before they had a deferment. You could defer the first half kickoff.
You only had to take the ball or, you know, which end of the field. Those are two choices back in high school in those days. So, about the time they had a deferment, they came up with eliminating that second-half conference of the captain of the team who lost the first-half coin toss to decide what they should do.
So you would know what they do is you go when you go in the locker room to grab the teams, the officials that go in there, you ask the coach, hey, you know, you want the ball, right? And, you know, usually you don't want to give them a choice. So they make a wrong choice. And you don't really have the kids make the choices because that really goes bonkers and sometimes upside down.
Kids just didn't understand that. And that's really what happened, why they did that with a deferment rule because the first couple of years of the deferment, kids would come out there, and their coach would say, if we win the toss, we want to defer, so we can have the second off kickoff. So the kids would come out when the coin toss and say, we want to defend that goal because that's what coach told us.
And they really that's what you want to do. Yeah, the coach says, I'm like, OK, and you go to the other team. Yeah, I'll take those.
They get the ball, both halves. So that's something that came to my mind when you're talking about eliminating the second-half kickoff because there's sort of a parody and fairness to that. OK, you get you won the coin toss, and you get the kickoff in the first half.
But in the second half, the other team gets it to sort of level that out with, you know, as best you can to have the, you know, even amount of chances to score, I guess, is, you know, it doesn't really work out that way very often. But at least on paper, it sounds pretty good, sounds pretty fair. And I'm just sitting there thinking, man, if they did something like you're talking, if that would have ever taken place, how important would that opening kick opening coin toss be? I mean, nobody would. There wouldn't be deferment anymore because you wouldn't have a second-half option, and nobody would pick a goal.
You would say, hey, I want the ball. There's no doubt about it. You'd be on offense first if you won.
Right. But, you know, originally in football. You know, just like, you know, if you watch a soccer match today, the team that starts the game by kicking the ball, they keep possession of it.
And that's the way football is, too. You know, you, the kicking team, just dribbled it a couple of feet and then picked it up and tossed it to one of their buddies. Right.
I mean, the original flying wedge was what that was all about. You dribble, dribble, kick it a couple of feet, and then the wedge closes on the guy who's the kicker, and they start running down the field. You know, so, you know, that a lot of that stuff, you know, I mean, at one point, it would have been crazy to say, well, you got to kick the ball at least 10 yards.
But, you know, that took like two decades or something for that group to come into play. So, you know, the kickoff is not always what, you know, what it is today. The other thing that comes to my mind, I guess, in comparison, is sort of what basketball did with the tip-off.
I remember we used to have a tip off both halves. Every time, you know, joint possession, you'd have a tip off. Now they have the possession arrows.
You really have that one tip-off; just alternate back and forth. Again, to try to put some parody in there. But yeah, that's a that's a that's a really good analogy.
But, you know, football also used to switch directions every time a team scored. You know, really? Wow. Yeah.
That's back, you know, the 1800s. But, you know, that's what they did. Well, you scored, and you switched.
That's an officiating nightmare there, especially with us officials that they have back in. Wow. That's something very interesting stuff.
That's interesting. I'm glad it didn't happen that way. I'm glad it is the way it is.
I'm more you're just you're just I love the way it is. Yeah, I know. I got to be more flexible there.
I'm pretty rigid about that kind of stuff. But great, great stuff. I love to hear history like that.
That's something you don't hear every day. And I haven't heard heard before. So very interesting.
So, Tim, you have these tidbits that come out each and every day. And I'm sure the listeners would love to know how they can to read about your tidbits. So why don't you please share that information with them? Well, I'm going to defer that to the next podcast.
OK, well, that while we're not having a second-half one. So sorry you lost your choice. OK, so yeah.
So, you know, if you're interested, if you want to make sure you get it every day or at least see it every day, you just go to my website, footballarchaeology.com. You can subscribe. And what will happen, you'll get an email every every night, seven o'clock Eastern with basically an email newsletter kind of format with the story. Alternatively, you can go to the site and read it, or you can follow me on Twitter at Football Archaeology.
OK, ladies and gentlemen, Timothy P. Brown, footballarchaeology.com. Make sure you check out his site, sign up for his tidbits, and listen to him every Tuesday on pigskindispatch.com. Tim, thanks again for joining us. Hey, very good. Thank you, Darin.
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